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Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:37 pm

Cylinder head bolts
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Stuff for oil pump and T-headed bolts to transmission bracket
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Timing chain sprockets etc. The tensioner, or the tensioner side guide rail to be more precise; proved difficult to find. Seems pretty much no one makes them anymore.
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Supplies for exhaust header.. It'll be quick & dirty. I'll cut the bends here they cross paths and weld in a 2" pipe. The manifold doesn't have equal length primaries or secondaries to begin with, let alone the diameter or length I'd specify. So I'm not expecting much improvement to the power curve from this. It's lighter and less restrictive than OEM. Someday I'll make a fancy header but this is it for now.
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Soaking old chain tensioner stuff in diesel, see if can revive one of them.
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Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:56 pm

One more trip to the local CNC-shop. 1 mm machined off the dome tops. Static compression ratio should now be ~12.44:1. One assembled piston is now 224 grams lighter than stock.

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I ordered a new front valance but for some reason not this bracket that's above it:

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Better start sandblasting then :roll:
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Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:17 pm

So, I bought a new front valance, turned out it comes with that bracket ^ mentioned above, included.
I took the car to the paint shop
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Bit of a challenge to find timing gear parts for an engine that's been out of production for 26 years. Finally all here. I mofidied the cam sprocket for timing adjustment/fine tuning.
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I found that a few valves were not tight to their guides. Took it to a cylinder head specialist shop. They first called me, that exhaust valves need replacing, then informed that no supplier imports them to Finland anymore ecxept BMW dealership. I found that they're 64€ a piece.. Found a set on Ebay.co.uk for a reasonable price. Well at first they sent me 3 exhaust valves and one inlet :D. Then, I've had a couple of set backs with the pistons and the block..
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Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:15 pm

Head back from the machine shop. New exhaust valves fitted to seats and K-liners to the guides.
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Hood.. still in need of some tidying up. A week of back pains screwed up my schedules, so the car went to paint shop without all parts included. Trying to get them there ASAP.
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Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:11 pm

What are K-liners - presumably, bronze or brass valve guide inserts?
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Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:10 pm

Speedtouch wrote:What are K-liners - presumably, bronze or brass valve guide inserts?
Yes, I think we're talking about the same thing :). Look at the pic I posted of the valve stem/guide. Thin inserts to the guides.

Some progress with the iX diffs ratio swap.
http://petrolhead.kuvat.fi/kuvat/lukkoper%C3%A4.mp4
Not the best video I know. Finding the correct side bearing preload, ring gear swapped.
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Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:33 pm

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Same car, different light and different camera :D.

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So far the color has divided opinions, but the one who paid for it is happy :).
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Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:29 pm

Good progress nice to see some paint on her
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Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:21 pm

Thanks. That's what everyone says, quick progress. I think it's just that I'm doing stuff that's visible so it looks like I'm going fast forward.
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Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:25 pm

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Valance and lip don't fit with each other
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Steering rack centering tool inside the hydraulic line bolt:
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Sat May 14, 2016 11:49 am

Not going to set this to zero like many people do. It won't be a new car no matter what I do
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ECU installed and wiring harnesses under construction
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While the block and pistons were at a machine shop, we bolted on a spare block with a spare head, oil pan and the box.
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..this enabled me to fabricate the shifter and engine mounts, to measure what length the prop shaft needs to be and design a bunch of other stuff.

Bought a cover for the car..
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Brake fluid reservoir needed to be moved, collided with the plenum
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New collector to exhaust manifold.
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Ignition coil mounting point
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I sold the only set of tyres and wheels I had, from under the car. Ordered a set of semi slicks
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Sat May 14, 2016 11:58 am

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All exhaust stuff pretty much done
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New O-rings for ITBs' sync screws
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Linking all ITB vacuums together, then it goes through a small fuel filter and distributes (a hopefully stable) vacuum signal for ECU's MAP sensor and fuel filter's pressure regulator
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Sat May 14, 2016 12:04 pm

DIY elbow pipe for idle control valves hose. OEM items are NLA :/
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Ugly-as-hell air intake
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Engine wiring harnesses about done. I made them so that they can be assembled to engine while the motor is out of the car.
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..they attach to these:
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Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:29 pm

145/80R14 spare
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Brake fuild reservoir moved away from the inlet plenum.
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Massive weight saving by deleting the passenger side lock cylinder
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Good thing I checked the TDCs, manufacturer marks were NOT spot on..
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I don't think I've ever seen a yellow E30 before. I really like it
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Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:58 pm

Whata the final weight?
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Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:40 am

this is an awesome thread and car. good to see the SOHC's are still around receiving some love


did you convert that head to the dome squish design or did certain heads come that way? in a lot of ways its like the 885 head on the m20.

are you going to check the clearance between the dome of piston and head with clay/Plasticine?
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NoTurbo wrote:Whata the final weight?
I don't know. I've had a bit of a creative pause, no progress since July/August.
reggid wrote:this is an awesome thread and car. good to see the SOHC's are still around receiving some love


did you convert that head to the dome squish design or did certain heads come that way? in a lot of ways its like the 885 head on the m20.

are you going to check the clearance between the dome of piston and head with clay/Plasticine?
Thank you. I have this particular SOHC just because it suits my purposes perfectly. Besides, DOHC is by no means the only road to happiness. M10 is a big bore engine. Whereas the M50 (which everyone seems to be shoving in E30's,) has small bore and thus puny 33mm inlets.
Things like "bhp/liter" do absolutely nothing for you. The engines physical dimensions, weight and power are the only things that affect my driving. DOHCs are typically very heavy compared to a similarly powerful SOHC..

The shape of the piston domes+1mm of radius was "copied" to the head. The head was originally an E30 318i item. No head exists that goes together with those pistons, without machining.
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Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:57 am

Just read your whole topic. Epic car and a good choice engine wise. Not something you see everyday.
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Jarno wrote:
NoTurbo wrote:Whata the final weight?
I don't know. I've had a bit of a creative pause, no progress since July/August.
reggid wrote:this is an awesome thread and car. good to see the SOHC's are still around receiving some love


did you convert that head to the dome squish design or did certain heads come that way? in a lot of ways its like the 885 head on the m20.

are you going to check the clearance between the dome of piston and head with clay/Plasticine?
Thank you. I have this particular SOHC just because it suits my purposes perfectly. Besides, DOHC is by no means the only road to happiness. M10 is a big bore engine. Whereas the M50 (which everyone seems to be shoving in E30's,) has small bore and thus puny 33mm inlets.
Things like "bhp/liter" do absolutely nothing for you. The engines physical dimensions, weight and power are the only things that affect my driving. DOHCs are typically very heavy compared to a similarly powerful SOHC..

The shape of the piston domes+1mm of radius was "copied" to the head. The head was originally an E30 318i item. No head exists that goes together with those pistons, without machining.

Just out of interest, Why didnt you go M42 what made you decide on M10?
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Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:01 pm

NoTurbo wrote:
Just out of interest, Why didnt you go M42 what made you decide on M10?
My plan just evolved over time. My initial thought was to make do with the engine it had, an M10B18V. Then the B20 motor crossed my path..
M42 would be a nice motor properly built. Two friends of mine have one each in their E30's. I've been telling them to buy an M47 crank and some fancy high compression pistons plus same size valves as the S50/S54 engines have. That would be my approach, try to build a 4 pot version of the S50 engine. It's my understanding that the M42/44/50/52 and S50/52/54s share the same basic architecture. Well, the same bore spacing anyway.

One thing that M10 has going for it, is that the sport Getrags from M3's and such bolts right up. Very interested to see how much the smaller rev drop between gears helps.
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Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:03 pm

Definitely an interesting approach, the M3 drivetrain is really heavy. Have you looked at the Bauer or Alpina drivetrains from an E21?

Might give you some weight saving in the gearbox, diff etc..
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Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:16 am

I wouldn't trade that box to anything else BMW has to offer, so I consider it neccessary weight. As for the 188 diff, yes the 168 would be ~11kgs lighter. However I hear they're weak, plus the availability for any parts is better for the 188.
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Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:06 pm

fair enough!

Can't wait to see the finished product :D
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Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:35 pm

Well, I got her to start up. Provided the engine doesn't grind itself to pieces I guess tuning the fuel/ignition comes next.
Unable to post pics or video ATM, Im browsing with my phone. Laptop died.
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Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:07 am

The car passed the equivalent of your MOT-test yesterday. A yearly tech inspection, plus the tech changes were approved and entered to registration sheet.
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Excellent :cool:
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Valve clearances adjusted, throttle bodies now also vacuum synced not just mechanically, some fine tuning done to ECU. Idles nicer.
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Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:13 pm

Well, that joy lasted for about a 1000 kilometres. Luckily, the only problem with the car seems to be the engine. Might sound overly optimistic but bear in mind I've once taken the car a part and put back together, while modding just about everything. In my language there's an expression that loosely translates to "built again, up from the atomic level ".
First the good things. Car seems to handle well , suspension is "firm but not hard". The high profile tyres' compliance helps here I think. Noise level is surprisingly OK. No interior/dashboard squeaks, to which I've come accustomed owning a few E30s. Body reinforcements must be doing their job. Steering IS on the heavy side but even my wife manages to turn the wheel so no need for PS.

The engine feels/felt very, very strong even from low revs if I do say so myself. Well, take that in the context of an NA 8 valve :). I could drive it daily with an even racier cam than the current item. Pulls a lot better than say an M42-engined E30. Did not have the chance to dyno it.

So.. before I had a change to properly test it, deal out severe twisty road punishment, the engine developed an overheating problem at WOT. Bigger radiator and a new waterpump helped but didn't solve the problem. Plus it had a mysterious intermittent knocking sound a high revs at WOT. Finally decided to have a look through an endoscope:

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That's a view of piston top land/cylinder head wall. All pistons have the egde bent at inlet valve cut out area. Difficult to explain.. I'm thinking that three things contributed to piston-head contact: 1) very tight piston-head clearance, 2) piston rocking (0,03 milllimeters larger than stock piston to cylinder clearance), 3) the very thin area aroud the valve cut out must've been hotter and hence more thermal expansion, tightening the gap further. -is thermal expansion a correct term :) ?
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