E30 Zone

Hi...

I have been trying to identify what type this manifold is... Karan has suggested Hartge and it seems very similar but it is diffcult to see for sure because of the different angle on the pictures...

But this is what I have so far...
This is my car...




Supersprint - definitely not this type.


Hartge


Hartge


Hartge


Hartge


What do you guys think... I haven't found pics of Alpina, Ac Schnitzer or any other manufacturers except Karan's Dynamic Racing and that is completely different... only wish I had one like that.

Don't think it's hartge because the angle of the first two pipes are different. Don't know what it could be tho

looks like a schnitzer to me... its hard though cause most of the designs are so similar (with a few exceptions, eg RD)

Boots_Walker wrote:looks like a schnitzer to me... its hard though cause most of the designs are so similar (with a few exceptions, eg RD)

I need a pic of a Ac Schnitzer manifold... but yes... the Hartge one looks similar but its hard to see if it is the same...

yeh dont look like a hartge.....

looks a bit like this one.....

It looks like a cross between a hartge and Alpina.

What ever it is its very nice and looks like a good design.

Damn - I have to find out

wrap it up in exhaust wrap....ull see a power gain and increase in economy....or so i have been told.....ill be doing this to mine possibly.


definitely doing it to the e34 m5 manifold
Karan

Karan wrote:wrap it up in exhaust wrap....ull see a power gain and increase in economy....or so i have been told.....ill be doing this to mine possibly.


definitely doing it to the e34 m5 manifold
Karan

Exhaust wrap??? What is that?

PS, what is this manifold on the nice looking red engine?

that does indeed look alot like his Karan
Is it me or does that red engine have six throttle bodies?

Its an Early Hartge, the give away is the oil filter housing has been spun 180 degrees so the filter is @ the front

Brents Hartge engine has the same exact mainfold dude.

http://www.schwarzone.de/e30/fotost/f00644/f00644.htm

doesnt say what it is.......i dont think so neway! lol

that has dbilas throttle body conversion,.....dale325i has it on his 2.5 making almost 200hp from his 2.5 with cam and 6 branch!

Karan

ant wrote:Its an Early Hartge, the give away is the oil filter housing has been spun 180 degrees so the filter is @ the front

Brents Hartge engine has the same exact mainfold dude.

could i spin mine round? as oil changes are 'interesting' LOL

yes mate, they all rotate on the block, just slack the oil cooler fittings off, undo the centre fittin and she'll spin around no worries, get a new O ring though !

ant wrote:Its an Early Hartge, the give away is the oil filter housing has been spun 180 degrees so the filter is @ the front

Brents Hartge engine has the same exact mainfold dude.

That would make me one very happy

It would be very cool... because then I will concentrate on Hartge modifications if possible...

Hartge modifications cost lots of money for very little gain.

Did you fit that manifold yourself or was it on the car already? You sure the engine is not a hartge one?

M5pilot wrote:Hartge modifications cost lots of money for very little gain.

Did you fit that manifold yourself or was it on the car already? You sure the engine is not a hartge one?

Nope it was on the car - I seriously doubt that the engine has some modifications... I guess it would be bright though to do a dyno before buying chips and stuff... Just in case it turns out to be delivering more than it is supposed to.

By the way, I have poor comparison since the only E30's I have driven are M3 and a cabrio which has a chip, a cam and a sports manifold - but they were similar in performance (the cab and mine) at least judging from the driving experience, but the cabrio also had 17" wheels, LSD (maybe another ratio) and its heavier.

Yeah Hartge stuff costs - didn't know about the poor gains though... I would be on the look out for good second hand stuff...