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Car over heating

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:15 pm
by chur
Please i need help i changed the radiator and bleed it. When driving the temperature gauge stayed below the mid bar, but when stop with the engine running the temperature went above the three quarter point.

Can anyone help me.
Many thank.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:16 pm
by chur
:idea:

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:49 pm
by Brianmoooore
Viscous fan coupling is the prime suspect.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:41 pm
by georgen
Hi chur,

Use the "search" facitily on the toolbar above. You'll more than likely find a fair few people have had the same problem, and all your questions will be answered in one easy step. It works like magic !!

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:39 pm
by chur
georgen wrote:Hi chur,

Use the "search" facitily on the toolbar above. You'll more than likely find a fair few people have had the same problem, and all your questions will be answered in one easy step. It works like magic !!
Many Thank for your help.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:41 pm
by chur
Brianmoooore wrote:Viscous fan coupling is the prime suspect.
Thank you. I will check it out.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:30 am
by tigalima
same problem like mine,,
i changed the viscous van and it's getting better
well you must bleed it, every 3 days,,

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:54 pm
by chur
tigalima wrote:same problem like mine,,
i changed the viscous van and it's getting better
well you must bleed it, every 3 days,,
I will be changing the viscous fan. I have been bleeding the car every day.
I will let you know when it sorted.

Cheers.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 4:58 pm
by spp320i
my money would be on the viscous coupling.

are you getting heat from the heaters?

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:33 pm
by chur
spp320i wrote:my money would be on the viscous coupling.

are you getting heat from the heaters?
I have changed the coupling fan and bled the radiator today. Yes the heater is working perfectly.

I have run the car for a while but still heating up. I think i still need to bleed the radiator.

I thank everyone for their kind support. i will let u know by 2morrow.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:48 am
by spp320i
If the car is bled properly and heat is coming from the heaters then that's not the problem. Is the viscous cutting in as it heats up? Is the bottom hose warm or cold?

It could be the thermostat needs changing.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:05 am
by chur
spp320i wrote:If the car is bled properly and heat is coming from the heaters then that's not the problem. Is the viscous cutting in as it heats up? Is the bottom hose warm or cold?

It could be the thermostat needs changing.
Car is doing well so far. Many thank.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:09 am
by chur
chur wrote:
spp320i wrote:If the car is bled properly and heat is coming from the heaters then that's not the problem. Is the viscous cutting in as it heats up? Is the bottom hose warm or cold?

It could be the thermostat needs changing.
Car is doing well so far. Many thank.
The bottom hose is warm.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:53 pm
by chur
chur wrote:
chur wrote:
spp320i wrote:If the car is bled properly and heat is coming from the heaters then that's not the problem. Is the viscous cutting in as it heats up? Is the bottom hose warm or cold?

It could be the thermostat needs changing.
Car is doing well so far. Many thank.
The bottom hose is warm.
.

Well i spoke to soon. The viscous fan do not cut in when car is heating 3/4 mark.

Next thing when car is cold the fan rotate very fast but when car is well heated the fan run normal and would not turn any faster and when accelerate the fan react normal.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:40 pm
by insertnamehere
Is the water pump working OK? Try removing the pressure cap (carefully) & see if there's any water being thrown out of the return in the top of the rad with the engine running.

I've always noticed that with the viscous fan on every BMW I've owned but none have ever overheated even if it did seem strange for the fan to be less effective when warm...

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:29 pm
by chur
insertnamehere wrote:Is the water pump working OK? Try removing the pressure cap (carefully) & see if there's any water being thrown out of the return in the top of the rad with the engine running.

I've always noticed that with the viscous fan on every BMW I've owned but none have ever overheated even if it did seem strange for the fan to be less effective when warm...
Will check. Thank.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:39 pm
by leee111
hey how do you check your thermo stat i took it off the engine there now is there any way i can check it

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:41 pm
by march109
leee111 wrote:hey how do you check your thermo stat i took it off the engine there now is there any way i can check it
Remove the thermostat from its housing and pop it in some boiling water after a few moments it should start to open.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:28 pm
by leee111
i my car is doin the same the fan seams to be workin fine what if i lift all the insides out of the thermostat housing what would this mean towards the heating of the car

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:36 pm
by march109
leee111 wrote:i my car is doin the same the fan seams to be workin fine what if i lift all the insides out of the thermostat housing what would this mean towards the heating of the car
What does this mean?

I assume you mean "how would the car run with no thermostat in it?"

Well this is probably a stupid idea for medium to long term running and I think you should probably fix the problem first! Withought a thermostat the constant flow of coolant through the thermostat housing will prevent the engine from reaching normal operating temperature. This can cause poor driveability in cold weather, a sharp increase in fuel consumption, little or no heater output, and accelerated blowby and ring and cylinder wear.

Does your heater work and give hot air after a few minutes of running?

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:42 pm
by leee111
yep its a very good heater when you sit the car haets up. But when you start moving again it will go down to a nick below half way

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:44 pm
by march109
so when your stationary the heater needle goes up past the halfway mark? and then when moving comes back down again? Does it come down randomly? or any other strange behaviour?

And I meant the heater in the cabin, when you turn it on does it blow hot air after just a few miles of driving from stone cold?

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:49 pm
by leee111
yep it comes down randomly.

and in the cabin well maybe five min drivin there is good heat in the cabin

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:52 pm
by march109
Are you sure the temperature gauge is correct then?

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:54 pm
by leee111
how do you check it

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:59 pm
by march109
Well you said you've checked the fan, and the fan would be my number one suspect for the symptoms you describe, so first how did you check the fan? How do you know it works when the engine is hot?

If you sit in the car and don't drive anywhere how does the temperature gauge react? does it go up then down then up then down. Is it completely random? what happens EXACTLY if you don't drive anywhere? And is the car parked level?

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:03 pm
by leee111
i will have to check that and the fan seems to be spinin when it was warm

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:07 pm
by leee111
is there a chance i could boil it by over heating it

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:09 pm
by march109
Just because it was spinning doesn't mean it was working properly, The usual test is to take a rolled up newspaper and pop it between the fan blades when the engine is warm. The fan if operating properly will have the power to shred the paper into tiny pieces with no trouble, if the paper stops the fan then your viscous coupling is not working or is not engaging properly.

The test MUST be performed when the engine is hot/warm, since the fan won't be engaged at lower temps but may still spin.

I would do this before anything else, as I said it is the most likely cause IMO of the symptoms you described.

Obviously half a newpaper rolled up or your local rag type is perfect, apparently yellow pages and broadsheets don't work so well. 8O

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:14 pm
by march109
leee111 wrote:is there a chance i could boil it by over heating it
Yes, there is a chancey you can boil the coolant but with adequete coolant mix and the pressure of the system the temperature of the coolant would boil at a temperature higher than water.

And honestly if it gets that hot your endanger of ruining your head.

What engine does your car have fitted btw? and why do you think your at risk of the coolant boiling? If the needle goes that high (near top) you should shut the engine off ASAP.

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:34 pm
by leee111
hey it keeps going up and up the tempature gauge

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:36 pm
by leee111
i also need a new fan

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:41 pm
by march109
leee111 wrote:i also need a new fan
How do you know this? Its the viscous coupling that engages the fan!
leee111 wrote:hey it keeps going up and up the tempature gauge
You not helping very much your not giving enough information!

How quickly does it go up? And when does it keep going up and up?

Turn the engine off before it hits the top for gods sake![/quote]

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:52 pm
by leee111
i did the news paper trick and it stoped the fan so im guessin its broke i was sitting talking to a random man who stoped me and the gauge went very high in the gauge just over the thre quarter way mark do you think i need a new fan

Re: Car over heating

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:59 pm
by march109
You still haven't told me what engine you have!?!?!