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Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:31 pm
by greentouring
The other night I was out taking the touring for a spin down very dark, unlit country lanes, and apart from the beams being misaligned, the amount of illumination is very bad and doesn't light up enough of the road ahead, even when level.
What wattage lamps are standard and has anyone upgraded to brighter lamps?
I don't want to go spending 50 quid or anything right now though........

Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:42 pm
by georgen
I use xenon extreme bulbs in my touring and the difference they make is unbelievable. The road is lit up with a nice white light instead of a dull yellow. They cost me £15 for a set of 2, which I believe is very good value. I bought 2 sets for obvious reasons.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:45 pm
by jcjdavis1
Hi I use Halfords Super Brilliance,better than originals.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:03 am
by greentouring
Okay, cheers. Hmmm, I've had French lights fitted, a legal requirement, but sure that shouldn't make a difference. I'll take a look on the 'bay'.

Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:12 am
by munky30
you can pick up a cheap hid kit for 60 sheets... I know thats above your limits but imo (as someone with dipped beams that light up a car length in front of the car and NOTHING ELSE

) i think its the only sensible thing to do.
All the uprated xenon hi vis uber white magic fairy dust bulbs in the world wont make much difference... A slight one maybe... but nothing worth writing home about.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:20 am
by greentouring
munky30 wrote:you can pick up a cheap hid kit for 60 sheets... I know thats above your limits but imo (as someone with dipped beams that light up a car length in front of the car and NOTHING ELSE

) i think its the only sensible thing to do.
All the uprated xenon hi vis uber white magic fairy dust bulbs in the world wont make much difference... A slight one maybe... but nothing worth writing home about.
You may very well be right, Munky.......Better start saving my euros.

Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:22 am
by Onz
do you have those yellow french headlights by any chance?
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:59 am
by greentouring
Onz wrote:do you have those yellow french headlights by any chance?
I'm glad to say I don't ....lol It's very rare to see those nowadays in France.

Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:19 am
by Onz
you should put green ones on your car

Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:00 am
by ric325i
i would love the yellow lenses!!! they look ace but i would not want anything to dull the lights anymore
i had some blue bulbs in before which looked nice but its a blue filter painted on the lense which made it worse.
so these 60 notes items.....are they HID? time to search the bay.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:04 am
by SPADGE
Surely the place to start would be to get them aligned properly
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:05 am
by Steviec
I wouldnt buy the bulbs from ebay, most of them are cheap sh!t. There are some new Osram ones out, my brother got some in place of his other 'brighter bulbs' and really rates them. Ill try to find out what they are called.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:09 am
by fivepint
are these HID kits plug n play? I dont want go splicing wires and have my main beams coming on with my wipers!!!

Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:23 am
by CustomX
Align, and give the lamps a bloody good clean regularly.
Aim a bit higher than usual too - but not too much.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:25 am
by pnd
the uprated bulbs are a big improvement over standard try osram or halfords who are doing a two for the price of one at the moment on super brilliance bulbs. easier and cheaper than hid's and all you need really.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:30 am
by ric325i
pnd wrote:the uprated bulbs are a big improvement over standard try osram or halfords who are doing a two for the price of one at the moment on super brilliance bulbs. easier and cheaper than hid's and all you need really.
contraversial (as is my spelling)
my mates subaru legacy has just had a HID kit on and it works better than well!
im sure they are a millions times better than brighter bulbs.
has anyone using brighter bulbs had any probs with melting wires?
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:26 pm
by pnd
ric325i wrote:pnd wrote:the uprated bulbs are a big improvement over standard try osram or halfords who are doing a two for the price of one at the moment on super brilliance bulbs. easier and cheaper than hid's and all you need really.
contraversial (as is my spelling)
my mates subaru legacy has just had a HID kit on and it works better than well!
im sure they are a millions times better than brighter bulbs.
I admit that a good hid set up will be preferable(though not by a million times) but maintain for most people the uprated bulbs set up will be adequate and a good improvement over stock for a reasonable cost.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:04 pm
by ric325i
yeah probs for a cheap quick level of improvement then they will do the trick.
as soon as i get a e30 on the road i will be buying some bright bulbs (maybe some 'rally' spec bulbs from helfrauds) because the HID kit is worth more than my car.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:36 pm
by greentouring
I like the look of the light that the hid kits give, and I can believe I wouldn't want to change once I had them, but I really can't justify spending that much money on lighting when I need other things for the car, and more importantly, for myself
I've just been out in the garden trying to get the lights aligned properly but it's not quite dark enough yet (remember I'm an hour ahead of you lot in the UK). Will get back out there later.
I'm thinking just some higher wattage lamps would do the trick, afterall isn't that what we did before all this hid lighting............?
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:26 pm
by georgen
munky30 wrote:
All the uprated xenon hi vis uber white magic fairy dust bulbs in the world wont make much difference... A slight one maybe... but nothing worth writing home about.
Disagree. I have found my new bulbs to be far, far brighter and longer reaching than the old ones, and it's like driving a completly different car when dark. Just my 2 cents worth..
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:29 pm
by Bob_S
HID kits can be had for as little as £30 nowadays off ebay
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:09 pm
by Onz
but is the £30 HID kit any good or will it be prone to engine fire!
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:01 pm
by o22ie
buy a good torch and superglue to the bonnet..... works for me

Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:07 pm
by Onz
Is that an LED torch or just a regular one?
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:11 pm
by gazza
halfords "not for road use" 100w h1 bulbs ......£6.99 each ....works for me

Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:13 pm
by d6dph
My advice (from someone who tried 4 different sets of "uprated" bulbs) is to bite the bullet and get an HID kit, You will wonder how you lasted so long without them.
I have done 2 modifications to my car since I have had it that have really improved my enjoyment of the car, First was the chip from Ant and Second my HID kit.
Worth every penny and safety shouldn't have a price tag imo.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:41 pm
by Morat
Stop wasting time with different coloured bulbs!
Follow the guide
HERE and buy the cheapest ebay kit you can find.
You'll thank me, honest

Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:52 pm
by Bob_S
got 2 sets of the cheap sets and no problems what so ever, they are as good a quality as the "bosch" ones that were oh so popular!
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:00 pm
by Cloggy Saint
I have osram silver stars in my touring and they're just as useless as standard. Take the lights out and give the insides a good swill around with warm soapy water, that's a good starting point.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:38 pm
by Onz
do the cheap ones last as long?
any overheating?
excessive drain on the battery?
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:42 pm
by Steviec
The bulbs I was talking about are 'Osram Nightbreakers', come highly recommended and give a noticable improvement over other osram superbright bulbs.
The cheapest place ive found them is here:
http://www.powerbulbs.com/product_detail.asp?prod=114 they cost £23.95 with free delivery and a free pack of phillips blue vision side light bulbs.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:46 pm
by Steviec
What is the law on HID kits though? I thought the lights had to have a self levelling system and headlight washers.
The way the police are round here whth their 'stop checks' I wouldnt want to take any chances.
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:00 pm
by o22ie
Might be able to help you all on these.... i can get
osram
onbh1 osram night breaker h1
delivered for £17.00 a pair
i cant do nothing today as im not at work, but can sort on monday if you want........
also give me any other codes for bulbs and i should be able to help
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:30 pm
by Steviec
o22ie wrote:Might be able to help you all on these.... i can get
osram
onbh1 osram night breaker h1
delivered for £17.00 a pair
i cant do nothing today as im not at work, but can sort on monday if you want........
also give me any other codes for bulbs and i should be able to help
I might take you up on this when I get paid for a few of my ebay bits.
Do you take paypal?
Re: Cost effective way of improving my head light beam?
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:59 pm
by o22ie
Steviec wrote:o22ie wrote:Might be able to help you all on these.... i can get
osram
onbh1 osram night breaker h1
delivered for £17.00 a pair
i cant do nothing today as im not at work, but can sort on monday if you want........
also give me any other codes for bulbs and i should be able to help
I might take you up on this when I get paid for a few of my ebay bits.
Do you take paypal?
yeah no problem mate, paypal fine.
just rang work and we have 10 pairs of these already on the shelf,...
to admin please note i am not/nor want to be a trader... i can merely offer to fellow zoners something that i can get from work at staff rates.. all ive allowed is 1.50 for postage