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Tricky to select first gear

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:37 pm
by daveyboy20
As said, from a standstill i have to push pretty hard to get it in to first, if i select another gear first it seems easier to then pop it in first. Its fine driving around and with the car slightly rollin its easier to pop it into first too but from a dead standstill its quite hard. Any ideas? I occasionally feel the clutch pedal 'undulating' (is that the right word...) under my foot when driving, a kind of very light hardly detectable throb occasionally, dont know if this is related? Cheers, Dave

Re: Tricky to select first gear

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:45 pm
by daveyboy20
Anyone have any ideas?

Re: Tricky to select first gear

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:19 pm
by HairyScreech
syncromesh on 1st or your clutch plates are off centre/warped and dragging.

Re: Tricky to select first gear

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:31 pm
by rab-doo
Same thing on mine - plus a little crunch on second when cold from time to time.

Doe this basically mean thet the Gearbox is scrap / needs reconned?

Re: Tricky to select first gear

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:34 pm
by march109
rab-doo wrote:Same thing on mine - plus a little crunch on second when cold from time to time.

Doe this basically mean thet the Gearbox is scrap / needs reconned?
Yours deffo sounds synchro related. tbh secondhand gearbox is cheaper than a recon at the moment.

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:38 pm
by Heyho
I would say that the symptoms you are describing are almost certainly due to dry and probably rusty splines on the input shaft/clutch centre plate.

By the time you have the box out to clean and grease it, you may as well chuck a clutch in there. BMW manual boxes are very strong, and it's rare to see one broken, or even a synchro worn out.

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:13 pm
by rab-doo
I'm planning a new clutch but I've kinda got a list as long as my arm to deal with first - reckon i'll drive on 'til something goes bang one day then sort it. That's what RAC cover's for!

In the mean time I'll change the 'box oil and cross my fingers :wink:

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:01 pm
by Brianmoooore
rab-doo wrote:!In the mean time I'll change the 'box oil and cross my fingers :wink:
Change it for Dextron II ATF fluid, and see if that improves things.

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:15 pm
by rab-doo
Brianmoooore wrote:
rab-doo wrote:!In the mean time I'll change the 'box oil and cross my fingers :wink:
Change it for Dextron II ATF fluid, and see if that improves things.
I bought 5L of GL-4 80-90 Hypoid oil for the diff cos I read somewhere that this would be fine for the box too- even though Hypoid was not called for.

I also have ATF Type D, which is recommended by Valvoline for E36 318is manual (no E30 318is on their adviser). Is there much difference between Type D and Dextron II?

I'd like to use what I've got if possible.

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:30 pm
by Brianmoooore
rab-doo wrote:I also have ATF Type D, which is recommended by Valvoline for E36 318is manual (no E30 318is on their adviser). Is there much difference between Type D and Dextron II?

I'd like to use what I've got if possible.
Quick google suggests that it's OK.

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Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:48 pm
by rab-doo
Cheers Brianmooore.

Apologies to Daveyboy for hijacking your thread.

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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:56 am
by mrLEE30
could also be the shift lever bushings

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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:57 am
by daveyboy20
No worries! So as far as i can tell the gearbox is ok, could be slightly worn clutch and it may improve with a change of gearbox oil?

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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 1:02 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
mine crunches, was told it was syncros, very bad in cold weather, but easses when warmed up, do you get that to??

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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:23 pm
by daveyboy20
Its much better when warmed yep, but it doesnt crunch (yet!)

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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:06 pm
by Dave_M3
I doubt it's a scyro imo anyway since its better when moving and only problematic when at a standstill.
Sychros are for swapping cogs when the car is in motion.

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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:29 pm
by cypriot_boy_2k7
mine crunches when changing :eek: