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weird window behavior ?
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:23 am
by hoshy
Weird one. When I was looking at my broken car I noticed a fuse out. no. 17 iirc - turned out to be electric windows so unrelated to the cars running problems but the weird bit is that I'd been opening either door to use the electric windows as even with the fuse blown when a door is open they still work. Given that they worked when the doors were open I'd assumed a wiring fault (mostly likely when I fitted the alarm :p) and just got on with it.
anybody come across a similar thing?
Re: weird window behavior ?
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:26 am
by smithy318i
the EW are powered by 2 different fuses depending on if the door is open or closed.
Re: weird window behavior ?
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:27 am
by hoshy
interesting. anybody know why?
Re: weird window behavior ?
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:38 am
by SPADGE
Hoshy
The windows have 2 different circuits.
One for when the ignition is on and doors closed and another for when its off and a door is open.
This was done so you could still shut the roof or windows without having to put the key in the ignition.
Re: weird window behavior ?
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:54 am
by hoshy
a-haaaaaaaa - makes perfect sense.
Re: weird window behavior ?
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:04 pm
by Demlotcrew
SPADGE wrote:Hoshy
The windows have 2 different circuits.
One for when the ignition is on and doors closed and another for when its off and a door is open.
This was done so you could still shut the roof or windows without having to put the key in the ignition.
Yes and no,
All one circuit but just has an extra relay for when the doors are open.
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:27 pm
by connoisseur
Would the ignition off window closure be standard on a 1990 325 SE? Currently it doesn't work on mine so would be interested in knowing if/how I can get it working.
Cheers
C
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:27 pm
by ricey46
Hey guys I've got the problem where my windows don't work when the ignition is on!!? Whats my problem there then?? Any Ideas??
It's doin my head in having to open the door all the time!?

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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:27 pm
by hoshy
have you checked all the fuses ?
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:57 pm
by Brianmoooore
Especially 17!
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:02 pm
by ricey46
Yip all the fuses are there and fine, I even checked the safety switch with a meter and it's fine too!?

They work with the door open ignition off but not with door shut and ignition on!??
Was having a look at the manual and does Relay K5 have anything to do with it??(Missing)
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:36 pm
by Brianmoooore
ricey46 wrote: does Relay K5 have anything to do with it??(Missing)
Most definitely! K5 is the unloader relay for the windows, roof and seat heaters.
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:34 pm
by ricey46
Brianmoooore wrote:ricey46 wrote: does Relay K5 have anything to do with it??(Missing)
Most definitely! K5 is the unloader relay for the windows, roof and seat heaters.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Solved.....it was K5!!!
Cheers Brian!!
Borrowed K6 to try it, but there's no fuse for that(18) so I'm not sure if it's needed!?

(Auxiliary fan 99'C)
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:36 pm
by Brianmoooore
K6 isn't required unless either you've got aircon or someone's used it for some other purpose.
Probable explanation is someone pulled out K5 and accidentally put it back in the wrong place!
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 6:29 pm
by ricey46
Aswell as taking out fuse 17 and the other window relay in the glove box too!!? .....robbin gits!!lol.
Sorted now tho!!
