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Suspension rebuild/upgrades (updated 03/07/07)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:13 am
by ian332isport
Okay guys. I've been busy under the car for a while now, so though I should let you know what I've been up to.

It all started with the need for a new fuel tank, and the desire to fit my larger Z1 rear discs. As usual (with me), it sort of spiralled out of control, and ended up with a complete rebuild and a long list of other tweaks and upgrades.

To avoid having to take the car off the road for too long, I bought a complete used rear end from Simon13 (Take a bow Simon :D ).

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This was then stripped down so I could start the upgrades.

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I was planning on using some uprated ARBs (H&R), so decided it would be good to reinforce the mounting points on the trailing arms. These are a known weak point with thicker bars.

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The front subframe is also known to break as well, so this was also beefed up around the ARB mounting point.

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and the engine mounting 'ears'.

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I then turned my attention to the subframe. As you may know, the rear end is not adjustable for camber or toe as standard. Not an issue on a standard car, but fit lowering springs, and the geometry all goes to pot. This leads to uneven rear tyre wear and reduced grip (the lower you go, the worse it gets).

You can get eccentric bushes to adjust some of this out, but they're a pain to setup correctly, and don't offer all that much adjustment. For a while now, you have been able to get (from the US) an adjustment kit that uses eccentric bolts from the back end of the E39 5 series, and some slotted plates that are welded to the subframe. These allow the camber and toe to be adjusted independently of each other, and without removing the trailing arms (as you have to with eccentric bushes). Fitting the slotted plates is a big old job because you have to remove the subframe to do it, but once on the bench, it's not all that hard to fit.

This picture shows one of the tabs being aligned prior to the subframe being slotted to match the plate.

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Once they are slotted, they need to be welded on. I'd like to say that I did the welding, but it would be a big lie. I am however lucky to have a specialist welding company not too far away, so I let them do it 8)

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After it was all welded, it was sent away (along with the trailing arms and front subframe) to be blasted and powder coated before reassembly.

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When it came back from powder coating, it was time to put things back together. This started with the rear subframe bushes. Not having the proper BMW tool for this, I made my own tool from a piece of threaded bar and a couple of heavy duty PVC pipe caps. A bit of lube on the bush, and a quick tighten of the nuts had the bush sliding into place.

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I then turned my attentions to the trailing arms. These needed to have new bearings pressed in...

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...so out came my trusty threaded bar again.

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Once pressed in, it just needed to be secured by it's circlip.

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Once the bearings were in, it was time to fit the trailing arm bushes. I've read a fair bit of negative press regarding Powerflex bushes, so I opted for the Superflex variety. They get good reviews, and are also about 50% cheaper.

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This was another job for Mr threaded bar. First the poly bush is fitted

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Followed by the stainless centre sleeve.

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And there we have it.

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Next job was the brake backing plates.

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rear hubs.

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and brake pipes.

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It was then time to bolt it all back together.

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After finishing the rear end, it was time to start fitting parts on the car. I didn't take all that many photos on the front, but this shows the improved ARB mounting clamps. As standard, it only secures with a single bolt, and is just hooked in on the other end. This new clamp picks up on one of the subframe securing bolts and is much stronger (and easier to fit 8) )

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The rear ARB also suffers from weak single ended clamps, so these shiny billet aluminium mounts are much better.

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No pics, but the front also got new control arms, control arm bushes & ARB links. I also fitted a 330ci Clubsport steering rack which is quicker than the E36 rack I had on there previously.

While I was rebuilding things, the E30 M3 rear calipers (required when using the Z1 rear discs) got a good seeing to as well.

I didn't take any pictures of the strip and rust dip, but this left me with totally bare caliper castings that were back to clean bare metal. I was obviously going to paint them, but to help stop the rust, I had the calipers copper plated. I chose copper, as it goes on a lot thinner than some other plating materials, and I didn't want a large buildup in the piston bores.

Here's one after plating and ready for a squirt of paint.

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and after.

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Even the pistons had some work.

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After this, they were rebuilt with new seals etc, and are ready to go back on the car.

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I think that's about it for now. I have got some of it back on the car, so updates to follow.

Enjoy,

Ian.

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:22 am
by Kos
good work there

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:25 am
by 320Touring
excellent work sir!

If only I had a budget and time to do the touring like that!

I have however sprung for all new ARB mounting brackets, bolts, droplinks and bushes, so she should tighten up ok.

Nice to see a subframe to take the 3.2's power :cool:

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:26 am
by maxfield
8) 8)

Another zone hero!

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:27 am
by Kos
tms do a stregthening kit for the e30's arb's

here's the link
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/de ... D=T30REINF

any good iyo as bolt on weld on kit ?

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:38 am
by BadDave
Nice work

Gonna have to do the same with mine at some point

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:59 am
by Jhonno
Not alot i can say really.. Other than nice :cool:

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:56 am
by old_skool
Not bad... :wink:

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:14 am
by aceraf
Great work....great write-up too...!! :thumb:

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:34 am
by Jay07
Excellent Read Mate! Great Pics, Nice Work!! :D

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:42 am
by Andy325i
Awesome work Ian! you've managed to get all this done and I'm still trying to get time to look at my brake ideas hehe

Andy

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:21 pm
by A1BMW325iSport
top work there dude :cool:

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:25 pm
by ed325i
Ian how much bigger are the z1 discs ?

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:52 pm
by Jon_Bmw
Nice work as always and a good write up. Technical article for sure.

The threaded bar looks to be a life saver doing this job. If anyone is interested I think B&Q do these as I have one kicking about somewhere.

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:52 pm
by Theo
Ed, Z1 discs are 280mm, std are 258mm IIRC.

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:33 pm
by Davenotouring
Good work Ian, I am impressed as always with your handiwork!

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:40 pm
by Martinaston
Not bad, especialy getting that bearing in with the threaded bar. I managed to strip one just getting some arm bushes out. :roll:

Go on then how much all in ?

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:16 pm
by E30BeemerLad
love writeups like this, with lots of pics

80% of your car must be less than 2 years old by now :D

Re: Suspension rebuild/upgrades (not 56k friendly)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:54 pm
by ian332isport
ed325i wrote:Ian how much bigger are the z1 discs ?
As Theo said below, they are 280mm as opposed to 258mm for standard.
Jon_Bmw wrote:The threaded bar looks to be a life saver doing this job.
It was a life saver really. I used the same M12 threaded bar to fit the rear wheel bearings, trailing arm bushes and subframe bushes. I later bent it into a big 'U' bolt and used it to pull on the front control arm bushes as well. This was MUCH easier than trying to get them on by hand (I tried).

Ian.

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:38 pm
by ian332isport
Just a quick update.

I've now got the fuel tank fitted

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and completed some of the brake plumbing.

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I also got around to fitting my shiny new Rogue Engineering rear top mounts. If I'm honest, I don't really need these, as the E46 M3 mounts I had previously were fine. My main motivation for these was in the way they fit. Standard mounts have studs that poke up into the inside of the boot which have nuts on top to secure them. Not normally in issue, but my stereo install makes it rather awkward to access these nuts should I have to in the future. The Rogue mounts have a plate that goes inside the boot with the studs pointing downwards. Once fitted, you can easily access the mounting nuts from under the wheel arch.

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Ian.

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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:52 pm
by old_skool
Now that IS clean!


:cool:



I kneel in your magnificence oh great one :notworthy:

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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:17 pm
by DanThe
Ian, you seem to be breaking your own rules by using that brake line. :nono:

Even "I" use dealer supplied lines :)

Very council is that winkeye

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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:49 pm
by ian332isport
DanThe wrote:Ian, you seem to be breaking your own rules by using that brake line. :nono:

Even "I" use dealer supplied lines :)

Very council is that winkeye
Dan,

There is method in my slackness winkeye

I used dealer supplied lines except for the main front to rear one. I figured this is the one most likely to need replacing in the future, and it's also one of the more difficult ones to access once the tank and suspension is fitted. In this instance, I conceded that kunifer pipe was a better option.

It is nicely bent though :mrgreen:

Ian.

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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:38 pm
by tbmw
if you dont mind e askin how much did the copper plating of the calipers cost?

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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:20 pm
by HenryM3
Hi Ian,
As usual, a top job but we wouldn't expect anything else. I've just aquired the bits to do the camber and toe as my winter project. I'd be interested to know how difficult it is to set them up and what settings your going to use. Are you going to try the o/m settings. I've got some 312mm rear discs coming from the USA to bung on as well as uprated ARB's. I'll copy if I may your strenghing bits for the mounting points. And to think that you once commented on how clean the underside of my car was. I'd need to spend a week underneath with a scrubbing brush to get it looking like those photo's. Liked the comment about the pipes about future replacement, suggests your keeping the car for a while longer which means we all benifet.
Cheers
Henry

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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:34 pm
by HenryM3
Forgot to ask, did you ever get round to fitting the ground control suspension. The reason I ask is that I have H&R coil overs and ARB's fitted to my R32 and although it corners on rails, the ride in everyday use is no where near as good as the M3 on eibachs. I'm hoping by uprating the ARB's and keeping the eibachs it will stop the lean in corners but mantain the good ride. Are those thoughts logical or wishfull thinking.
Cheers
Henry

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:35 am
by ian332isport
tbmw wrote:if you dont mind e askin how much did the copper plating of the calipers cost?
I don't recall the exact price, but it was about £30 for a pair of rear calipers, and a pair of caliper carriers/brackets.

Ian.

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:46 am
by ian332isport
Hi Henry,
HenryM3 wrote:I'd be interested to know how difficult it is to set them up and what settings your going to use. Are you going to try the o/m settings.
I was going to start with standard settings, and go from there.
I'll copy if I may your strenghing bits for the mounting points.
Help yourself :)

The trailing arm tab and engine mount reinforcements came from Turner Motorsport in the US. The ARB brackets (front & rear) are from Ireland Engineering (via Flying Brick performance). The front subframe ARB reinforcement were locally made. You basically just need to weld a flat piece of steel in place to give yourself a flat surface to bolt the new bracket. As standard, there's a raised lug where the subframe bolt sits. You need to build up the surrounding area to the level of the lug.
And to think that you once commented on how clean the underside of my car was. I'd need to spend a week underneath with a scrubbing brush to get it looking like those photo's.
I am quite pleased how clean it is under there. There were a few patches of surface rust around some of the brackets etc, but nothing that wasn't easily removed. There's certainly no serious corrosion - which is nice :D
Liked the comment about the pipes about future replacement, suggests your keeping the car for a while longer which means we all benifet.
I'll be taking this one to my grave. I've sold cars before, and still regret doing it (look at the price of MK1 Escorts now :cry: ).

Cheers

Ian.

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:48 am
by ste
HenryM3 wrote:Forgot to ask, did you ever get round to fitting the ground control suspension...
Ian decided he felt the same as you've found, the ride would be too compromised for a road car, hence his Ground Control kit is now on my tourer.

Ian's car is primarily a road car that he uses on track, mine will primarily be a track car that I use on the road.

Will let you know my findings once I've driven it properly.

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:50 am
by ian332isport
HenryM3 wrote:Forgot to ask, did you ever get round to fitting the ground control suspension. The reason I ask is that I have H&R coil overs and ARB's fitted to my R32 and although it corners on rails, the ride in everyday use is no where near as good as the M3 on eibachs. I'm hoping by uprating the ARB's and keeping the eibachs it will stop the lean in corners but mantain the good ride. Are those thoughts logical or wishfull thinking.
Cheers
Henry
Henry,

I never fitted them in the end (Ste has them now). I basically came to the same conclusion as you, that they would be too stiff for a daily driver.

I've basically done exactly what you are planning. Regular lowering springs (H&R in my case), and ARBs to reduce body roll. I've yet to drive with the new ARBs, but reports from other people suggest that they make a huge improvement.

Ian.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:30 pm
by ian332isport
Thanks for the comments guys :)

Here's another update.

I've now got the rear subframe etc bolted back on the car. It's not normally that hard to fit one of these, but you try doing it while trying not to scratch anything :lol:

This is just a random shot of the new fuel and brake pipes.

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These next few shots show the subframe fitted back on the car.

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I then fitted the propshaft...

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..and then the heatshields.

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Then the handbrake shoes went on.

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Followed by the disc...

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...and calipers.

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Next job was the driveshafts...

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...and exhaust.

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That's pretty much where it is now. I still need to finish hooking up the brake hoses to the calipers, but it's nearly finished :)

Ian.

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:39 pm
by maxfield
Clean is not the word 8O

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:47 pm
by Dan318-is
Unbe-fuckin*-lievable. Thats all i can say!

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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:33 am
by ste
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Any chance it'll be finished for tonight? Wouldn't mind a pre-pub see at how well it goes after all this work.

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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:25 am
by old_skool
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