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I am wondering what paint to use. I have a compressor and paint gun and intend eventually to re-paint most of the car. At the mo just doing front scuttle and both wings.
Made the mistake of buying a haynes manual and am more confused than when i started.

Have done the prep work and primed with cellouse primer, not sure if this is the best to use so am happy to remove it.

Any ideas what is best to use or where to get?

Cheers for any help

Use 2K primers and topcoats...more durable!

aceraf wrote:Use 2K primers and topcoats...more durable!

Don't want to sound stupid, but I'm going to, when you say 2K what exactly is that?
Haynes manual bangs on about acylic this and that, enamel, super dupper enamal, paint your car and make you beautiful enamel, take you home and make you breakfast enamel and at no stage is 2k mentioned.

I F**king hat haynes manuals.

I wouldnt use 2K for home you need a air feed mask.

do u mean 2 pack?

2K is as it says....a mixture of 2 parts....a paint, and a hardner/activator

If you check with any bodyshop/paint supplier they'll be able to supply details on mixing ratio's etc....

as a guide...VRS (not sure if there's one near you) supply most paint for around £40/litre.... you then normally mix in one of the following ratio's 3:1, 2:1 or some are 1:1...some require a thinner to be used, and that then becomes something like this... 3:1:1, 3:1:1/2....you get the idea....but like i say, the supplier will be able to answer any questions you have about mixing.

Acrylic is used mostly for older cars, such as a MK1 cortina (only car i've ever used acrylic on), and Cellulose is quite an old paint system, and doesn't stand up very well....the old red cars with pink/white bonnets were normally sprayed using cellulose. Enamel sounds like something tiles are coated in...


Where do you intend to spray the car?

If you're doing the whole car i'd really recommend a spray booth, it'll save you alot of time when it comes to the final finish!

Oh, and ignore Haynes....it'll mess with your head!

ed325i wrote:I wouldnt use 2K for home you need a air feed mask.

Do you mean a respirator or is this a specialtiy mask with own air supply?

Look here to see what paints you can get www.paints4u.com

I wouldnt use 2K for home you need a air feed mask.

shouldn't be a problem if he's got a compressor!

do u mean 2 pack?

yes, used to calling it 2K

I've been on that site, seems good but still unsure what paint is best to use, given I'm doing it in my own garage.

BSB base coat with a Lacquer

aceraf wrote:2K is as it says....a mixture of 2 parts....a paint, and a hardner/activator

If you check with any bodyshop/paint supplier they'll be able to supply details on mixing ratio's etc....

as a guide...VRS (not sure if there's one near you) supply most paint for around £40/litre.... you then normally mix in one of the following ratio's 3:1, 2:1 or some are 1:1...some require a thinner to be used, and that then becomes something like this... 3:1:1, 3:1:1/2....you get the idea....but like i say, the supplier will be able to answer any questions you have about mixing.

Acrylic is used mostly for older cars, such as a MK1 cortina (only car i've ever used acrylic on), and Cellulose is quite an old paint system, and doesn't stand up very well....the old red cars with pink/white bonnets were normally sprayed using cellulose. Enamel sounds like something tiles are coated in...


Where do you intend to spray the car?

If you're doing the whole car i'd really recommend a spray booth, it'll save you alot of time when it comes to the final finish!

Oh, and ignore Haynes....it'll mess with your head!

Your not kidding.
Cheers for the advice that's helped.
I understand what your saying about a spray booth but it a project car not a daily drive and i'm happy to take my time and ensure garage is well cleaned etc.
Proper garage paint job is too expensive and i'm odd and like a challenge

madmerv wrote:

aceraf wrote:2K is as it says....a mixture of 2 parts....a paint, and a hardner/activator

If you check with any bodyshop/paint supplier they'll be able to supply details on mixing ratio's etc....

as a guide...VRS (not sure if there's one near you) supply most paint for around £40/litre.... you then normally mix in one of the following ratio's 3:1, 2:1 or some are 1:1...some require a thinner to be used, and that then becomes something like this... 3:1:1, 3:1:1/2....you get the idea....but like i say, the supplier will be able to answer any questions you have about mixing.

Acrylic is used mostly for older cars, such as a MK1 cortina (only car i've ever used acrylic on), and Cellulose is quite an old paint system, and doesn't stand up very well....the old red cars with pink/white bonnets were normally sprayed using cellulose. Enamel sounds like something tiles are coated in...


Where do you intend to spray the car?

If you're doing the whole car i'd really recommend a spray booth, it'll save you alot of time when it comes to the final finish!

Oh, and ignore Haynes....it'll mess with your head!

Your not kidding.
Cheers for the advice that's helped.
I understand what your saying about a spray booth but it a project car not a daily drive and i'm happy to take my time and ensure garage is well cleaned etc.
Proper garage paint job is too expensive and i'm odd and like a challenge

I know what you mean...i think i'd spray my car if i had a garage too!!!

just did a quick search, and found this...

http://www.southernfiltersltd.co.uk/pro ... .asp?cid=2

not sure about whether that's a competitive price or not, as i just clicked on the 1st link that came up, but that gives you an idea of what an air-fed mask looks like!

Also, ensure that you have adequate extraction for the fumes...and good lighting (daylight bulbs needed) so you don't have to lift your mask when spraying....

ensure you cover up well as isocyonate (sp) is very poisonous, and can get into the blood via skin and hair!

ed325i wrote:BSB base coat with a Lacquer

What's BSB and can you use in own garage?
2k needs full air feed mask or is a good qualtiy respirator sufficent?

madmerv wrote:

ed325i wrote:BSB base coat with a Lacquer

What's BSB and can you use in own garage?
2k needs full air feed mask or is a good qualtiy respirator sufficent?

http://www.paints4u.com/pdffiles/BSB_BSB_MICA.PDF

aceraf wrote:ensure you cover up well as isocyonate (sp) is very poisonous, and can get into the blood via skin and hair!

It is a bit of a tw4t to get off your nasal hair, the colour coded snot can be quite amusing though

Top job ed325i.
Good to see the zone is as helpful as always.