E30 Zone

Easy guys

What fast road pads would you reccomend with my cross drilled brakes?

I want them to be fairly usable for normal driving (i.e. it's not a dedicated track car)

Cheers

green stuffs cheap and cheerful and do the job, downside create alot of brake dust

What about the red stuffs do they leave less dust

not sure mate i am sure some one will come along and tell us
but red stuff is mainly for fastroad /light track use
or even yellow stuff is a possibilty
not all about cost
Pagid fast road pads are also quite good ( from friendly Local euro carpats man)
Conrad can get pagid at a reduced cost if required ??

fowler wrote:green stuffs cheap and cheerful and do the job, downside create alot of brake dust

I actually found the greenstuff pads to create less noticeable dust than normal pads

Euro car parts have started stocking greenstuff pads now

Andy

mintex 1144 or ferodo ds2500s

wouldnt touch greenstuff with a bargepole.

harry_p wrote:mintex 1144 or ferodo ds2500s

wouldnt touch greenstuff with a bargepole.

Up until yesterday I would have said Greenstuff, but that was before I managed to cook and fade mine approaching two successive roundabouts (baaaaad smell). Also, GSF (who used to be cheapest) no longer stock them; they have Mintex Xtreme, which nobody's buying because nobody knows anything about them. They may be good, they may be great, but until someone other than Mintex say so, they ain't selling!

Waiting to go on the car before Easter is a set of Ferodo DS2500s, as sold in the Zone shop (and at Camskill, but don't tell them I sent you). Apparently, they're not road legal anymore
Oh, look - all the paint just fell off the back of them. Now how will I know what pads I've got?

handpaper wrote:Up until yesterday I would have said Greenstuff, but that was before I managed to cook and fade mine approaching two successive roundabouts (baaaaad smell). Also, GSF (who used to be cheapest) no longer stock them; they have Mintex Xtreme, which nobody's buying because nobody knows anything about them. They may be good, they may be great, but until someone other than Mintex say so, they ain't selling!

Waiting to go on the car before Easter is a set of Ferodo DS2500s, as sold in the Zone shop (and at Camskill, but don't tell them I sent you). Apparently, they're not road legal anymore
Oh, look - all the paint just fell off the back of them. Now how will I know what pads I've got?

What fluid are you running and how old is it? I have never had a problem with Greenstuff/ATE power discs and Dot5 fluid (changed at least anually)

They have been well tested at an indicated 100+ twice and a final 140ish to 30ish mph without fading at all (all on the track of course )


Andy

handpaper wrote:Up until yesterday I would have said Greenstuff, but that was before I managed to cook and fade mine approaching two successive roundabouts (baaaaad smell). Also, GSF (who used to be cheapest) no longer stock them; they have Mintex Xtreme, which nobody's buying because nobody knows anything about them. They may be good, they may be great, but until someone other than Mintex say so, they ain't selling!

Waiting to go on the car before Easter is a set of Ferodo DS2500s, as sold in the Zone shop (and at Camskill, but don't tell them I sent you). Apparently, they're not road legal anymore
Oh, look - all the paint just fell off the back of them. Now how will I know what pads I've got?

just to contradict again tonight

i brought mintex extreme last week from gsf

cant tell you what there like until april the 20th though

see my siggie

Andy325i wrote:

handpaper wrote:Up until yesterday I would have said Greenstuff, but that was before I managed to cook and fade mine approaching two successive roundabouts (baaaaad smell). Also, GSF (who used to be cheapest) no longer stock them; they have Mintex Xtreme, which nobody's buying because nobody knows anything about them. They may be good, they may be great, but until someone other than Mintex say so, they ain't selling!

Waiting to go on the car before Easter is a set of Ferodo DS2500s, as sold in the Zone shop (and at Camskill, but don't tell them I sent you). Apparently, they're not road legal anymore
Oh, look - all the paint just fell off the back of them. Now how will I know what pads I've got?

What fluid are you running and how old is it? I have never had a problem with Greenstuff/ATE power discs and Dot5 fluid (changed at least anually)

They have been well tested at an indicated 100+ twice and a final 140ish to 30ish mph without fading at all (all on the track of course )


Andy

sorry mate but dot5
should never be used on the road
it is silicon and wont absorb the water.it locks it into the breakline and corrodes itself out

did you mean dot 5.1?
which your'll find has lower boiling point than super dot4
may i explain a few points
dot4 lifespan 2 yrs
dot4 super lifespan 2 yrs yet has high temp boiling point
dot5.1 lifespan 3 yrs and i still havnt found one that has a boiling point more than dot4super
dot5 for use in amphibious vehicles

hope this helps fellas

if you fellas want off the shelf high temp fluid
look for castrol response super this is dot4 super and has a dry boiling point of 280 degrees

i will be using motul rbf600 for the trackday but to confess i cant find any dot rating for it(so i suspect it has none!)
but i do know its dry boiling point is approx 320 degrees

Ah my bad its not silicone, that I am sure of (I bought some silicone and then relised it destroyed the seals etc so swapped it for the Dot (5.1?)

I seem to remember the 5.1 had better qualitys than the 4 but can't remeber the exact details (maybe dry/wet boiling points?)

I will check tomorrow

Best wishes

Andy

What is this dry/wet boiling points you speak of?

As in if it's in the rain or not?

Conrad wrote:What is this dry/wet boiling points you speak of?

As in if it's in the rain or not?

Brake fluid is hygroscopic, given the opportunity (cap left off reservoir, poor seal, old fluid) it absorbs water from the air.
Dry boiling point is for new fluid, containing no water, wet is for fluid that has absorbed all the water it can.

My fade occurred using OEM grade vented discs and DOT 5.1 fluid; about 10 months old (pads, discs and fluid changed for my 'Ring trip last July)

Conrad wrote:What is this dry/wet boiling points you speak of?

As in if it's in the rain or not?

dry is new fluid
and wet quoted is for its expected water absorbsion at end of its service life

as ive said dot5.1 is just a rating for service life eg 3 yrs
dot 4 is two years

CHRISP wrote:What about the red stuffs do they leave less dust

they seem to . i have red on the front and green on the rear to match my EBC drilled grooved discs.good set up with no fade as yet even with some hard abuse