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E28 M5

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:47 pm
by BIGMRLEE
has anyone fitted the e28 m5 tb`s to a 325? do they fit or can you get a manifold to make them fit. has anyone got some to sell me? :?

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:54 pm
by Geeman
I have a feeling that they'll only fit the larger M30 units.... they're physically 'longer' than the M20's...

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:19 pm
by Richy325iTouring
just give me the e38 m5

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:20 pm
by Geeman
*cough* 28

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:56 pm
by Karan
they wont fit an m20

if u want throttle bodies... contact www.dbilas.de or bmpdesign in the states,... they sell good kits...

e28 m5 is one awesome car..... one of my dream cars,... id love to have one one day.... :cool:

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:19 pm
by jamesroools
tad slow for 286bhp, pretty good top speed if i remember in excess of 150mph i think

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:22 pm
by Karan
jamesroools wrote:tad slow for 286bhp, pretty good top speed if i remember in excess of 150mph i think
from what i have heard they feel faster than e34 m5s and i have an e34 m5 and it doesnt feel slow....

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:10 am
by Toby_Unna
jamesroools wrote:tad slow for 286bhp, pretty good top speed if i remember in excess of 150mph i think
huh? it's not very heavy but extremely unaerodynamic. so should have good acceleration but pretty poor top speed and i think the figures back this up! the 0-60 isn't bad considering how big and comfortable and quiet the e28 feels when you drive it.

150 isn't that fast, an old vectra 2.5 will do it and i think karan's car will too!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:12 am
by Geeman
The E28 weighs less than an E36 Compact!

I had a mint '87 E28 518i Lux. It was no drag racer, but it was REALLY nice to drive. I'd have one again just to use as a smoker... but no room to house it and bigger plans mean it's a no go. *sniff*

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:52 am
by Toby_Unna
Geeman wrote:The E28 weighs less than an E36 Compact!

I had a mint '87 E28 518i Lux. It was no drag racer, but it was REALLY nice to drive. I'd have one again just to use as a smoker... but no room to house it and bigger plans mean it's a no go. *sniff*
1.8 :gay:

ha ha no i bet that was nice to drive. it's a bit sad but i've always sort of wanted an e28 524td, even since i got the m535i, they're supposed to be really good!! i like 6 cylinder diesels

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:10 pm
by Karan
u comin lakeside toby and u got another lump in the e30 yet?

if not come in the e28 neway!

:cool:

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:29 pm
by Richy325iTouring
Geeman wrote:*cough* 28
someone moved my keys again

either that or i was tired one of the 2 and most probably the latta


thank you

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:33 pm
by jamie325isport
huh? it's not very heavy but extremely unaerodynamic. so should have good acceleration but pretty poor top speed and i think the figures back this up! the 0-60 isn't bad considering how big and comfortable and quiet the e28 feels when you drive it.

I used to have a lovely M535i, it was mental think the 0-60 was about 7 secs. Which isnt bad for a box was lovely and comfortable to drive but not quiet the sun roof had the rust problem (common fault) and used to lift up at about 70 only sold it because i couldnt afford to run it (the way i wanted to drive it) was very gutted. :cry:

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:30 am
by Chaos
Toby_Unna wrote:the 0-60 isn't bad considering how big and comfortable and quiet the e28 feels when you drive it.
0-60 is a piss poor test of acceleration


the best test (imo) is 40 - 100 thru the gears

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:18 pm
by MrBroon
Here's my old M5 just before I sold it. Great car and only really got going at over 100mph (on the track obviously!) upto 100 the car did feel a bit sluggish but it is a big car. The thing is that when others, including the M535i were slowing down at 100+ the M5 just kept on pushing.

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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:02 pm
by jamie325isport
That looks totally mint! 8) did you get a good price for it?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:29 pm
by MrBroon
It was mint, I'd just rebuilt it. I got the best money you can get for an M5, pity it owed me 2.5 times as much!!! What a car though, I'll probably never own anything as nice again in my life!

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:33 pm
by M5pilot
E28 M5's are superb and yes they do feel faster than the E34's which feel very quick (as long as the viscous fan isnt on!).

Fantastic engine.

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:38 pm
by MrBroon
They do a feendish impression of a Volvo 240 with the viscous fan running! :D

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:41 pm
by M5pilot
I hate that fan so much. I now how to shut it up. The radiator need cleaning out on the exterior. The dirst and muck from many years on them doesnt allow them to dissipate heat properly.

Volvo 240?.......You mean Volvo bloody Lorry!

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:45 pm
by e30_Turbo
I had a e28 528i and it was a :cool: car to drive, give me my centre arm rest back PLEASE!! Car ate miles up, soooo nice to drive long journeys and performance was plenty and the noise was just plain evil :twisted:
Have to agree about aerodynamics tho, above 130 there is obvious wind noise and by 140 and above it sounds like a hurricane outside. You could see the rubber around the windscreen flexing!!! Still one of the most comfortable and relaxing cars I've ever driven, pity it only did 16 mpg :eek: .
It was my introduction to owning and running a BMW and the joys of 6 cylinders!! :lol: :lol:

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:05 pm
by BIGMRLEE
sorry but we`ve got side tracked i only wanted to know if i could fit them to my m20 325 lump, any1 done it? :?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:07 pm
by Karan
as i said no they wont fit///

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:13 pm
by BIGMRLEE
I know sum good fabricators to make me a manifold,would i gain alot (bhp). :?

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:20 pm
by BIGMRLEE
karan, skip this, how do you get moving avitars?............. please help, very impressed

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:25 pm
by Karan
yeh manifold helps.......
especially if u have other mods such as cams etc.....

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:46 pm
by Toby_Unna
fozzymonster wrote:I had a e28 528i and it was a :cool: car to drive, give me my centre arm rest back PLEASE!! Car ate miles up, soooo nice to drive long journeys and performance was plenty and the noise was just plain evil :twisted:
Have to agree about aerodynamics tho, above 130 there is obvious wind noise and by 140 and above it sounds like a hurricane outside. You could see the rubber around the windscreen flexing!!! Still one of the most comfortable and relaxing cars I've ever driven, pity it only did 16 mpg :eek: .
It was my introduction to owning and running a BMW and the joys of 6 cylinders!! :lol: :lol:
a hundred and forty!

no it won't! i got my 528i SE manual to read 137 once but that was some serious slipstreaming. an m535i will just do a genuine 140 with the close ratio box and the mtech kit which reduces drag
mine never went down to 16mpg, the m535 is noticeably worse. my 528i would do a genuine 35mpg on a run if you left the cruise at 65-70 mph. but the engine was in really good nick admittedly.

got to agree though, a superb car. it was my first bmw too, Ԛ£500 when i was 19 and still at uni. centre armrests :cool: i still miss those in the m535i

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:52 am
by Chaos
M5pilot wrote:I hate that fan so much. I now how to shut it up. The radiator need cleaning out on the exterior. The dirst and muck from many years on them doesnt allow them to dissipate heat properly.

Volvo 240?.......You mean Volvo bloody Lorry!
y not remove the viscous fan and fit a nice thermostatically controlled electric jobbie

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:54 am
by Chaos
BIGMRLEE wrote:karan, skip this, how do you get moving avitars?............. please help, very impressed
find a video file thats been converted into a gif

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:21 am
by M5pilot
Cant fit the electic fan because there is already a fan infront of the rad for the AC.

Viscous unfortunaley has to stay!

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:40 am
by Geeman
Sal... have a rear mounted electric fan and reverse the polarity so it sucks instead of blows then... easy.

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:39 pm
by e30_Turbo
Toby_Unna wrote:
fozzymonster wrote:I had a e28 528i and it was a :cool: car to drive, give me my centre arm rest back PLEASE!! Car ate miles up, soooo nice to drive long journeys and performance was plenty and the noise was just plain evil :twisted:
Have to agree about aerodynamics tho, above 130 there is obvious wind noise and by 140 and above it sounds like a hurricane outside. You could see the rubber around the windscreen flexing!!! Still one of the most comfortable and relaxing cars I've ever driven, pity it only did 16 mpg :eek: .
It was my introduction to owning and running a BMW and the joys of 6 cylinders!! :lol: :lol:
a hundred and forty!

no it won't! i got my 528i SE manual to read 137 once but that was some serious slipstreaming. an m535i will just do a genuine 140 with the close ratio box and the mtech kit which reduces drag
mine never went down to 16mpg, the m535 is noticeably worse. my 528i would do a genuine 35mpg on a run if you left the cruise at 65-70 mph. but the engine was in really good nick admittedly.

got to agree though, a superb car. it was my first bmw too, Ԛ£500 when i was 19 and still at uni. centre armrests :cool: i still miss those in the m535i
Toby,

Actually had 143 ish shown on the clock when heading to eastern Germany, mind you the run up must have been about 50 miles! :lol: and I was chasing another e28 at the time, so maybe slipstreaming did help :D .
I was running a cossie K&N and the head had been played with a little by the last owner, pretty sure he said he ported it, but I never drove a std one to compare, still the most comfy car ever for me, maybe one day if I find a cheap one I'll have another, maybe.

And Big MRLEE, Andy335touring is currently playing with some TB's for his motor, although not quite the same as your plans, I'm sure he's having a adapter made up for his to fit something they weren'y made to fit.
HTH

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:24 pm
by CaesarBob
BIGMRLEE wrote:I know sum good fabricators to make me a manifold,would i gain alot (bhp). :?
Like Karan said. The TBs are designed to fit the "big 6" M30 block rather than the smaller M20 block. You'll be needing a mighty strange manifold to make them fit together.

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:47 pm
by Toby_Unna
fozzymonster wrote:
Toby,

Actually had 143 ish shown on the clock when heading to eastern Germany, mind you the run up must have been about 50 miles! :lol: and I was chasing another e28 at the time, so maybe slipstreaming did help :D .
I was running a cossie K&N and the head had been played with a little by the last owner, pretty sure he said he ported it, but I never drove a std one to compare, still the most comfy car ever for me, maybe one day if I find a cheap one I'll have another, maybe.

And Big MRLEE, Andy335touring is currently playing with some TB's for his motor, although not quite the same as your plans, I'm sure he's having a adapter made up for his to fit something they weren'y made to fit.
HTH
:cool: i guess it had some headwork. 143 is very very good! mine had a strong engine but was standard.

andy is copying an aluminium hartge adapter plate to fit m5 tbs to an m30b35.

after he puts his engine back together :lol:

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:49 pm
by Andy335Touring
:lol:

I'm going to make a start on the plate this week end. ;-)

These are the E28 M5 TB's

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