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Electric window help please
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 12:32 pm
by Jeff_200
A couple of months ago one of the rear electric windows on my touring conked out - it'll go down but not up.
Today the front passenger window has suffered the same fate
Is there some way of getting the damn things to go up? With the rear one I took the motor off the door and just wedged the window shut

but if they're all going to go the same way I need a longer term solution.
Please help

before it starts raining

Re: Electric window help please
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:29 pm
by orangecurry
I know it probably ISN'T this, but have you tried swopping the switches over (to the drivers side one)? It'll rule out the possibility, and the switches can get gooped-up.....
Re: Electric window help please
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:47 pm
by daimlerman
Have a look at the gearbox on the lift motor,the cable on the lift can jam,in the front the quadrant can jam,the switches can be dismantled and cleaned.(fiddly but worked yesterday for me...)once they all work,keep using them!!
Re: Electric window help please
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:55 pm
by mark_i
double check the window glass hasn't got jammed inbetween the door frame and the window seal...
Re: Electric window help please
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:03 pm
by Jeff_200
Thankfully the front window has started working again
However with the rear one I tried the switch on the centre console as well as on the door and neither worked, so I'm guessing it's motor related rather than to do with the switches. The weird thing is it'll still go down but not up

so I'm pretty sure it's not jammed. Can motors break in one direction but not the other?

Re: Electric window help please
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:17 pm
by orangecurry
it would be best to physically swop the switches with ones you know work - if the switches are in series, then one failing will mean the other one can't operate the window either.
But a clever system would have the switches in parallel? Which is it chaps?
There won't be anything wrong with the motor - the polarity of the electricity will be reversed to send it in the other direction... which is why I'm saying check those switches.... but I don't have windows like yours - someone here will though...........
Re: Electric window help please
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:30 am
by Brianmoooore
Switches are in series for the rear windows. Whatever is wrong with your windows, I very much doubt if it is the motors, if they are the factory fitted ones, rather than the dealer retrofit ones.
E30 electric windows are usualy very reliable. Most faults are the switches (console switches through collecting muck, rear door switches through lack of use), and occasionaly (front windows only), trouble with the door pillar sockets.
Re: Electric window help please
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:08 am
by orangecurry
Brianmoooore wrote:Switches are in series for the rear windows.
and I thought BMW did everything right - that's almost French in design

Re: Electric window help please
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:57 pm
by Chris
orangecurry wrote:Brianmoooore wrote:Switches are in series for the rear windows.
and I thought BMW did everything right - that's almost Italian in design

Italian? Easy Orangecurry you dont want to go saying things you dont mean and cant take back

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:59 pm
by orangecurry
ha - I
can take it back.... hang on... I've made things worse

Re:
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:52 pm
by Jeff_200
Thanks for your help guys. The old girl has nearly done a quarter of a million miles now, so I can excuse it acting a bit mediterranean now and again

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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:22 pm
by Brianmoooore
Jeff_200 wrote:Thanks for your help guys. The old girl has nearly done a quarter of a million miles now, so I can excuse it acting a bit mediterranean now and again

Wife's touring has done also nearly done a quarter of a million miles.
Everything works just as it left the factory; all switches and controls operate and feel as new, it's recently returned from hauling a tonne of caravan at illegal speeds all over France, and in a few weeks it'll be going for an MOT, which it will pass, as ever, with no advisories or preparation whatsoever, except for a wiper blade.