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UPDATE ... what has happened to her???

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:50 am
by eun
right,

i have a big problem..... tonight i went to the petrol station and
put in a full tank of fuel. i then proceded on my way for a little drive
around town and after about 20 mins got pulled by the filth.....
for a "routine check" apparently. after being given a producer etc
i went to pull away and my engine kept cutting out.

it was turning over and starting for a couple secs then just cutting out,
if i took my hand off the key.

so i called rac and they came to visit and he said he cant hear the
fuel pump going when im turning it over. apparently he said if you
go underneath you can hear it running through. he then sprayed the
carburrettor (spelling) with some cleaner and it started for a few secs and then cut out again so he said he thinks there is no fuel coming through.

he said he wasnt sure whether the fuel pump was gone and whether
it was on the inside or outside of the tank!

can anyone please help me :cry: :cry: :cry:

has anyone ever experienced summat like this before?

any info asap would be greatly appreciated

cheers eun

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:52 am
by Kos
316 carb??

what year is your car??

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:54 am
by Jhonno
it was a 316i M40 and is now apparently a 325i m20.. so i have no idea where a carb comes into it

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:57 am
by stevetigger
Jhonno wrote:it was a 316i M40 and is now apparently a 325i m20.. so i have no idea where a carb comes into it
I thought he said in another thread it was a 2.5 now, no carbs on them!

http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... ic&t=25980

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:02 am
by Kos
sound like fuel pump,

should be internal, under the rear bench seat you will find a black oval plate held in by 4 screw( drivers side) its there, take it out and smack it few times it may start to work again. very easy fix

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:03 am
by jonbuoy
He's obviously not clued up here lad's, help him out a!!

Not sure but do you need a stronger fuel pump for the 325i?
Other than that, it's inside the fuel tank mate so you would'nt here it anyway.
Fuel tank off job mate :?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:05 am
by Jhonno
fuel pump is accessable inside the car..

could be the party popper.. if its come off or something and leaking unmetered air in it will run like shit if at all

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:06 am
by Kos
jonbuoy wrote:He's obviously not clued up here lad's, help him out a!!

Not sure but do you need a stronger fuel pump for the 325i?
Other than that, it's inside the fuel tank mate so you would'nt here it anyway.
Fuel tank off job mate :?
no no, its easy job to do, look at my previous post!!

you can hear it buzzing somtimes

hi

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:10 am
by eun
so should i try the rear bench option first?

does it matter that ive got a full tank of fuel to do this or no?

i dont realy wanna have to take the feckin thing off. :x

cheers for the advice so far lads :)

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:12 am
by jonbuoy
Do what Kos said first geese, much easier to do it that way but i'm sure this should have been uprated to cope with the 2.5 from the 1.6 :?

hi

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:12 am
by eun
Jhonno wrote:fuel pump is accessable inside the car..

could be the party popper.. if its come off or something and leaking unmetered air in it will run like shit if at all
the hose has nothing on it at the end jhonno mate....
should there be? i put it on cos didnt want anything being sucked in! :?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:13 am
by Kos
yep, very simple, the tank will not need to come out unless its blocked of some thing extream.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:15 am
by stevetigger
Its easy, just take out rear bench....you will see a big round thing on the floor pan under where the bench sits, undo the nuts and pull out the motor!

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:19 am
by Jhonno
jonbuoy wrote:Do what Kos said first geese, much easier to do it that way but i'm sure this should have been uprated to cope with the 2.5 from the 1.6 :?
1.6 uses the same pump

hi

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:20 am
by eun
ok lads thats hopefully what it is then.

il check first thing in the morning and let you know the outcome.

if i need a new one how will i know and how much etc?

thanks for the quick replies it gives me summat to get up for
now in the morning and cancel my football training :D

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:23 am
by Kos
Ԛ£30 for a used item

call this number, next day mail order.

07074262262 bmc motor spares

tell him kos refered you

Re: hi

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:26 am
by Jhonno
eun wrote:
Jhonno wrote:fuel pump is accessable inside the car..

could be the party popper.. if its come off or something and leaking unmetered air in it will run like shit if at all
the hose has nothing on it at the end jhonno mate....
should there be? i put it on cos didnt want anything being sucked in! :?
was the end of the hose open? if so it shouldnt be..

Re: hi

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:37 am
by eun
Jhonno wrote:
eun wrote:
Jhonno wrote:fuel pump is accessable inside the car..

could be the party popper.. if its come off or something and leaking unmetered air in it will run like shit if at all
the hose has nothing on it at the end jhonno mate....
should there be? i put it on cos didnt want anything being sucked in! :?
was the end of the hose open? if so it shouldnt be..
yeah it was open it just looked like summat was supposed to
be there. what am i missing? :?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:39 am
by eun
Kos wrote:Ԛ£30 for a used item

call this number, next day mail order.

07074262262 bmc motor spares

tell him kos refered you
cheers kos

how will i know if its fooked......

shall i take it out give it a few bangs and put it back in and it should start up right?

if it doesnt its fooked....is that correct :?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:39 am
by stevetigger
A little pipe that loops round and back onto the spigot

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:41 am
by Kos
basically yes. they just seize up.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:42 am
by stevetigger
Image

Here this might help, see the little pipe!

hi

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:49 am
by eun
stevetigger wrote:Image

Here this might help, see the little pipe!
thats a great help steve you ebay king lol

now i just need someone to donate me one..

SOS..... the little bit of pipe that steves talkin about i need one
asap

cheers :D

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:52 am
by stevetigger
Image

This way might help better! Can you see it??

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 8:57 am
by BeemaBoy
Excuse my ignorance, but what pipe are we looking at?

The one on the back of the Fuel Pressure Regulator?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:17 am
by stevetigger
This one with a party popper on!

Image

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:26 am
by E30BeemerLad
what has that pipe with the party popper on got to do with fuel and fuel pump? That's just for the vacum for the brake servo. Admittedly the car would run like a bag of shite though if that was off or split or have I just not read the post properly? :mad:

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:28 am
by kam-325i
Would'nt the loss of vacum cause the FPR to play up ?

hi

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:45 am
by eun
right just been out and took the plate off.

gave it a bang in general but which pipe is the actual
fuel pipe, there are about 7 different pipes! 8O

got nothin after a bang tho and whats this about there being
a motor in there?

i couldnt find a motor! :?

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:00 pm
by keith52
The fuel pump should be as most have already stated inside the tank, there are a number of pipes leading to the top of the pump , outlet and return pipes, Its not unusual for the pump to play up with an intermittant fault, best just to replace it , There also should be an inline fuel filter on the nearside rear floor pan (external) just in front of the rear wheel , suggest thats changed as well. Possible that you've got a dodgy relay which is located inside the engine bay adjacent to the air box , small plastic cover with 2 / 3 relays fitted orange and or white |could have that tested

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:14 pm
by Demlotcrew
I would also look at the Relays.

But i wonder where they have put them with the car being a 316i

Andrew

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:50 pm
by TheDutch
I'd check relays + fuel filter too.

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:37 pm
by Martinaston
Are you sure the nice policeman didn't help himself to your relays to get you to slow down :snigger:

hi

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:18 am
by eun
right im gonna check the relays today

can someone point them out on the photo on the previous page
as i noticed someone has said where will they be
located now that its a 325.

how will i know that the relays are fooked?

do i just take them out and then put them back in and see it that works?

need to know asap

thanks for any more info in advance and any previous info

eun :D

hi

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:51 pm
by eun
right i think ive found the problem...

ive taken a pic of the relay box and the orange one has been burnt by something and its blown so would i be right in believing that if i get a new
one my car should work?

Image

can someone confirm this asap please :?

cheers

eun :)