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Starting problems

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:06 pm
by veilthe30
My car had being playing up in the last few days taking its time to start and a having a small misfire when it did start I have fitted a new fuel pump to day but it's still not starting and the all the relays are fine so could it be the crank sensors? Any help would be much appreciated

Thanks

Re: Starting problems

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:08 pm
by Grrrmachine
1) What car?

2) From hot or cold?

3) Is it cranking, or nothing happens when you turn the key?

4) When it doesn't start, have you checked for spark?

Re: Starting problems

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:44 pm
by veilthe30
sorry its a 316i it cranks over and sparks

thanks

Re: Starting problems

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:57 pm
by veilthe30
really need help with this now it seems no power is geting to the fuel pump i have checked all the fuses and realys there all fine any help would be good

thanks

Re: Starting problems

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:37 pm
by Grrrmachine
What year 316i? There's a huge difference between a 1987 and a 1988.

And how have you confirmed that power isn't getting to the fuel pump?

Re: Starting problems

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:43 pm
by veilthe30
its a 92 and i followed the guide from the wiki with the light bulb when i turn it over its not up i have checked the wires for any splits and it all seems fine


thanks

Re: Starting problems

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:16 pm
by Grrrmachine
If you're sure you're getting spark when you're not getting fuel, then try taking out the fuel pump relay and bridging its terminals.

http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/inde ... Pump_Relay

If that works, then your fuel pump relay was shot.

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Re: Starting problems

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:26 pm
by veilthe30
bridged it and still nothing and i am still getting a spark

thanks

Re: Starting problems

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:47 pm
by Grrrmachine
Final thing is to swap the fuse in case it's soft-blown, and do a continuity test on the fuel pump wire.

Re: Starting problems

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:46 pm
by veilthe30
did that and still nothing :(

Re: Starting problems

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:27 pm
by Brianmoooore
Use the bulb to check that there's power at pin 30 of the fuel pump relay's socket (connect bulb between pin 30 and earth).
If the bulb lights, fit a wire link between pins 30 and 87 of the relay base, and use the bulb to check for power at fuse 11 in the fusebox. With most designs of fuses you can touch the bulb's wire onto the fuse wire with the fuse in situ. Otherwise, remove the fuse and push the wire from the bulb into the inner socket.
If the bulb lights here, connect the bulb between the green/purple wire at the pump's plug and earth.

Re: Starting problems

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:38 pm
by veilthe30
ok i will try this in the morning

thanks