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Pre facelift headlight loom

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:18 pm
by gooner1
Wonder if some body could help me out here.

Recently bought the below from a well respected member here.


Pre facelift to facelift headlight wiring conversion kit.

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My problem is i can see no way it connects to my lights loom
below.

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Is my loom different from the usual Pre facelift one, or am i missing something really obvious :?:
The kit was originally supplied with Smoked Hellas, i believe.
The lights i want to fit are Bosch Bulls eyes, which shouldn't
really have any relevance as the kit should plug into the original
wiring loom end. Btw, it's not the sale i'm questioning, it's my
loom. Simon, you have PM mate.

Re: Pre facelift headlight loom

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:28 pm
by Duke137
It looks to me like on pic 1, the far right hand connectors are the same as under the big black rubber dust covers? I would class the connectors as male on the headlight and from memory they look similar?

Might be wrong though.

What lights are you putting in, smileys?

Re: Pre facelift headlight loom

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:08 pm
by gooner1
Duke137 wrote:It looks to me like on pic 1, the far right hand connectors are the same as under the big black rubber dust covers? I would class the connectors as male on the headlight and from memory they look similar?

Might be wrong though.

What lights are you putting in, smileys?


" The lights i want to fit are Bosch Bulls eyes, "

This is it fitted to the lights

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it's not the lamp end that concerns me but the 3 male connector
bit, my loom end has a 3 female round connection.

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Re: Pre facelift headlight loom

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:07 pm
by Duke137
Try exposing the back of the pre face headlights in the car and see what the pins look like mate, all may become clear?

Re: Pre facelift headlight loom

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:39 pm
by gooner1
Duke, this is a pic of my light loom end

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This is a pic of the New wiring fitted to the lights

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Now if you follow the wiring from the Yellow connector
at the bottom of the light on the left, also the wiring that runs into
the black sleeving at the top of the same light, you will see it
runs into a black plastic plug that has 3 brass spade ends.
You can see it clearer in the very first pic i posted on this thread.
Now even i can tell, those three spade ends are not going to fit
into the 3 round female holes on my original loom end.
As i say, the new wiring bit fits to the lights perfectly, but not to
my original connection. This can probably be over come by fitting 3 male pins to the end of the new wiring in place of the
spade ends, but i'm curious to know if my original wiring is the norm for a pre face lift.

Re: Pre facelift headlight loom

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:42 pm
by Duke137
I've got a load of bits n bobs at home, as soon as I get in I'll take a few pics and compare

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PS, Still have a look behind the black rubber grommits because I am sure the light units have spade type connectors on pre face, your 3 pin female plug hasn't involved you removing the black rubber dust caps off the back of the lights is what I am saying :)

It is like you have a mini wiring harness on your current loom, but honestly, check the back of the headlights in the car and take a pic lets see whats under the covers :)

Re: Pre facelift headlight loom

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:51 pm
by gooner1
Duke137 wrote:I've got a load of bits n bobs at home, as soon as I get in I'll take a few pics and compare

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Ta mate.

Re: Pre facelift headlight loom

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:53 pm
by Duke137
Sorry gooner, I edited my last post don't know if you saw it mate

Re: Pre facelift headlight loom

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:11 pm
by gooner1
Duke137 wrote:I've got a load of bits n bobs at home, as soon as I get in I'll take a few pics and compare

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PS, Still have a look behind the black rubber grommits because I am sure the light units have spade type connectors on pre face, your 3 pin female plug hasn't involved you removing the black rubber dust caps off the back of the lights is what I am saying :)

It is like you have a mini wiring harness on your current loom, but honestly, check the back of the headlights in the car and take a pic lets see whats under the covers :)
Ah. i see what you're getting at. Will check it out later :thumb:

Re: Pre facelift headlight loom

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:33 pm
by Aragorn
The three pin plug shown looks like a standard H4 bulb connector, so its only going to plug in if you currently happen to have headlights which use a H4 bulb?

Re: Pre facelift headlight loom

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:43 pm
by Duke137
As promised photos below. Gooner I was right, it seems you have an extra connector/harness adapter already..... Don't know if that is normal?

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Pre face headlights with spade connectors

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Do these look familiar :D Inside the rubber dust cover

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Headlamp loom without the connector you have.....

Hope that helps mate, I'd just connect your 3 pin back together and seems you'll be fine.

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