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No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:19 pm
by JOHN21
right last night my car didnt start after driving it around ,i went inside for about 15min then came back out to start her up she fired but was lumping runing for 10secs then dead ,wouldnt start at all after that ,so i got towed back home ,

checked fuses in fuse box they look all fine
so then i takin the fuel pump out and tested it thhat works

so if im right somewere theres no power getting to the pump as it does not buzz now when i put the ing on for a few secs

were is the relay for the pump this is my fuse box

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my car is a e30 318 with 325 fitted ,bought the car like this

any help or info would be great
thanks john

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:25 pm
by eltel
have you got spark?? check the crankshaft position sensor for chaffing where it runs behind the pulleys..

have you any immobilisers fitted?
have you checked the multiplug beneath the inlet manifold or tried wiggling it with the engine running/trying to run?

the fuel pump relay is orange and under the bulkhead wiring cover - it has a green/purple wire going in to it.
if you link together pins 30 and 87 the pump should run

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:36 pm
by JOHN21
rite an update just put the pump back in ,i thought i would try it she started up ,pump was working fine so after a 1min i turned it off ,and now she not start again no noise from pump

ive got no imob mate
ive got a mint spark etc

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:37 pm
by JOHN21
pins 30 and 87 ,dont call me thick but were are these etc

got ya now just googled it were the relay should be

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:44 pm
by e30mazm3
Turn the relay over to see the pins and youll see the nymbers next to each pin. Then just work out where they locate in the holder and bridge 30 and 87

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:49 pm
by eltel
as above..you dont need the ignition on..just remove the relay and bridge the 2 pins...listen for the pump

you checked the fuses..fuse 11 is the bad boy for the pump if you want to double check

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:49 pm
by Brianmoooore
If this car has a 325 M20 engine fitted, the fuel pump relay is now likely to be in the vicinity of the air filter. On E30s with factory fitted 6 pot engines, the relay is clipped to the back of the air filter bracket, along with the DME relay and a socket for the lambda sensor heater relay, all all covered by a black plastic housing.
Relay pin numbers are marked on the relay.

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:51 pm
by JOHN21
the fuel pump relay is orange and under the bulkhead wiring cover????

ive looked all over for this and nothing under passeger fooot well drivers foooot well ,and nothing around the engine bay area

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:52 pm
by JOHN21
right ill go and have a look there near the air box ,ill check num 11 too

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:59 pm
by eltel
good point brian..my mind was elsewhere, had one eye on coronation street!

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:11 pm
by JOHN21
right brain it was there mate near under the air filter many thanks ,i put a wire between 30 and 87 and no nosie from the pump at all only the ign nosie from the engine bay area ,so i then checked the terminals out they seem ok ,put it back together ,tryed it, it started again lol ,so then i turned it of wiggeld the relay and number 11 fuse and still nothing now, i think the pump is playing up tbh

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:42 pm
by eltel
you didnt need the ignition on when bridging..did you have someone in the back listening for the pump?

when it doesn't start try bridging the wires again and at the same time test for power at the pump with a multimeter or test lamp. that way you can rule out/in wiring etc

but it does sound like an intermittant pump fault..

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:22 am
by JOHN21
i didnt have the ing on mate ,as soon as i put the wires in 30 and 86 ,the ing lights came on anyway ,so i then had a listen for the pump

i need a test lamp then ,or say a bulb with wires on at a guess to see it there power getting there etc

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:03 am
by Brianmoooore
JOHN21 wrote:,as soon as i put the wires in 30 and 86
30 and 87!

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:26 pm
by JOHN21
i did mate its my big fingers they get in the way lol

Re: No petrol getting to engine

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:32 pm
by Brianmoooore
If you join 30 and 87, (or 30 and anything else), the ignition lights shouldn't come on.
Are you sure you've found the pump relay.