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Wiper Problems
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:12 pm
by TPS
My wipers on the cabby., when you press the stalk down to perform a single sweep, nothing happens! unless you hold the stalk down. If you let go of it during this, the wipers will stop in that position & then slowly park themselves. The other speeds will work, as soon as you turn them off the wipers, they very slowly park themselves. Fitted a new motor yesterday, no change, any ideas?
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:16 pm
by Brianmoooore
If the motor is beyond suspicion, try a different wiper control module in the fusebox. (Large black rectangular box)
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:49 pm
by TPS
Thanks Brian, I'll try that first.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:07 pm
by grantfk10
I have the same problem - I suspect it is the wiper control module in the fusebox. I went to the local scrappy to source one (they had about 8 E30s last time I was there) - Only one E30 was left there, with no fuses or relays at all. it had been stripped bare

Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:31 am
by TPS
I'll swap mine with the one in the touring, I'll let you know the outcome.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:52 pm
by TPS
Swapped the relays around, still the same, stuck now.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:31 pm
by Brianmoooore
Well, there's only the motor, the 'relay' and the wire/connections between them involved! Especially check the brown earth wire from the motor, as, IIRC, it's only used for parking the motor.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:33 pm
by kam-325i
is the "Contact Disk" changed with the motor ?
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:29 pm
by e301988325i
This can be fixed easily by rebuilding the wiper motor as described in the wiki, don't use the old grease like I did, and I now have the same problem! In the cold weather the grease really thickens up and exacerbates the problem. The cause is the wiper positioning system being dirty and not making/breaking the circuit as it should.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:36 pm
by TPS
Thanks guys, I'm going to take the motor apart & rebuild it, at least if nothing else, I can elimate that as being the problem.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:36 am
by TPS
Took apart wiper motor yesterday, I guess this might be the answer to my problems!
I'll clear away the old grease, re-grease it with LM grease as per the wiki page, hopefully that'll cure it
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:41 pm
by e301988325i
Specifically, it's the dirt on the white plastic notch causing you problems. This is where the motor should stop.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:01 pm
by TPS
Do you mean the plastic bit in the middle?
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:06 pm
by e301988325i
The plastic notch in the face of the metal disc where the contacts run. This plastic piece breaks the circuit and tells the relay to stop the motor. At the moment no circuit is being made because the grease is too thick and hence the wipers stop anywhere.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:13 pm
by TPS
I think I understand now, the plastic indent at the bottom of the disc, bottom right of the 1st picture?
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:32 pm
by e301988325i
The metal disc (top picture) spins over the sprung electrical contacts (bottom) when the wipers are operating.
When it's operating correctly and is clean, the two sprung contacts make a circuit against this disc, when the disc rotates and the outer contact touches the plastic notch or break in the periphery of the metal disc the circuit is broken and it's at this point the relay knows to stop the motor and all being well, the wipers will be at the bottom of the screen!
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:38 pm
by TPS
Aah, That would indicate why this fault only happens on the single sweep/intermittent setting & not the slow/fast speeds. As its caked in grease, its getting a confused signal hence jerky wipers?!
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:44 pm
by e301988325i
That's it, during normal operation the motor operates continuously, the constant movement tends to clean the conacts a bit and then they stop where they should. In intermittent mode the relay/control module is always looking for the broken signal to stop the wipers, hence the old grease, even thicker now we're in winter, breaks the circuit causing the wipers to stop in the wrong place. I still havn't rebuilt mine for the second time, but I do know exactly what the problem is at least!!!
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:53 pm
by TPS
Mate your a star, remind me when you come to a Portsmouth meet next, to buy you a drink, I've cleaned the old grease off of it now, alot of work, used kitchen towel, WD-40 & contact cleaner, it was stuck in there, good & proper. Gonna to re-grease & then Saturday re-fit, hopefully thats problem solved.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:10 pm
by bobbin1982
Ah my wipers are playing up in cold weather too.. might be ANOTHER summer job to add to my list

Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:16 pm
by Brianmoooore
TPS wrote:. Fitted a new motor yesterday, no change, any ideas?
I think your definition of new may vary from mine!
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:25 pm
by TPS
The main problem Andy, is removing the wiper motor itself, theres limited space to work in, You have to remove the heater panel(good idea to grease the heater bearings at the same time), even with that removed, you have to force the thing through a small gap.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:27 am
by TPS
Brianmoooore wrote:TPS wrote:. Fitted a new motor yesterday, no change, any ideas?
I think your definition of new may vary from mine!
Yeh Brian, I was re-assured it was new, I'll have to look at the dictionary for that.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:18 pm
by e301988325i
How did you get on in the end? I've just rebuilt mine for the second time this morning and all is well now!!
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:45 pm
by 5six7eight
Glad I found this thread. Rebuilding my front and rear wiper motors has now gone on the list of things to do this weekend!
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:05 pm
by 5six7eight
Bump need some help!
Have taken the motor out and cleaned it all out.
However, on putting it back in, my intermittent setting still doesn't work and now, the fast wiper setting doesn't work! Is there anyway to diagnose the relay itself?
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:12 pm
by eltel
stupid question but you did put it all back together correctly??
i know that it can take a day or so of use for the intermittent to return properly, something to do with the grease settling i think, it said somewhere on one of the how to guides.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:23 pm
by 5six7eight
School boy mistake! I'd cleaned the outside of the disc, but didn't appreciate that the inside needed cleaning too. Have given it all a clean and grease and it's now 100% everything is spot on.
Re: Wiper Problems
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 3:40 am
by eltel
Good news!!