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Electric window problem - more help needed

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:01 pm
by breitlingboy
The window comes down ok but can't activate the motor to go back up.
Have tried another good motor in the connection and that won't go up either. Have tried a good switch and that doesn't help.

Any ideas?

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:16 pm
by XMon
What's the car? I'll dig out the wiring diagrams for ya.

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:22 pm
by breitlingboy
86 320i 2dr

I'm a complete novice with electrics, not sure I'll understand the diagram but certainly worth looking at. Thx

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:16 pm
by XMon

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:26 pm
by Brianmoooore
Uses exactly the same wiring to go down as to go up. Current just flows the other way around. So, if you're sure it is still powering down, and the window is not physically stuck, then it can only be the switch, or just possibly it's plug.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:34 am
by A1BMW325iSport
stick 12v straight into motor see if it works then, most likely a dodgy switch

Update

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:12 pm
by breitlingboy
Thx for the advice.

I've changed the swithces around for one's that work ok. The switches are illuminated ok. When depressed the illumination goes out.

When the "down" is depressed the window goes down ok. When the "up" is depressed there's absolutely nothing, not the slightest noise. The motor does not even try to do anything. I've tried a new motor, without load and this will only go down too.

The plug connection looks ok. Should I strip it down and rewire anyway?

Mike

PS Sunroof works ok too.

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:02 pm
by Brianmoooore
Each switch has two seperate wires to earth (brown wires). These wires are the only part of the wiring which is not common to up and down. The relevant one of these must be faulty.

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:30 pm
by breitlingboy
Cheers Brian, something to try tomorrow.

Mike

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:42 pm
by breitlingboy
Have tried stripping the plug connection and rewiring, still no good.

The brown wires all look intact and ok.

How easy is it to wire in a complete new switch?
The car is being prepped for racing so it doesn't need to be cosmetically fantastic. It just needs to work.
If it's possible, any idea of what I need and how to do it?
Thx for your help guys.

Mike

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:00 pm
by Brianmoooore
Try shorting the two brown wires together near the switch.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:36 pm
by breitlingboy
Brian, just tried it ...... still no good.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:52 pm
by Brianmoooore
I was going to suggest that your moror has a broken brush or something, that disconnects when it reverses, but , looking back to your OP, I see you've tried another motor.
In my toolkit, I have a 12V 5W lamp connected to a couple of bits of thin flexible wire. I've found it to be a usefull tool on several occasions.
If you can make up something like this, then disconnect the motor plug from the socket in the door, push the bared ends of the wires into the sockets of the connector, and plug it back together again, so that the lamp is in parallel with the motor. Then try the switch each way and see if the lamp lights up.
You could try it with just the bulb connected in place of the motor first as another test.