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e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:07 pm
by SHAZ325iSPORT
guys i converted half of my e30 yesterday to the 5 stud conversion using the following-
E36 Compact Rear Trailing Arms
Front E36 Legs(think they are 328 ones)
E30 Wishbones
Off Centric Bushes(lollipop)
right the 1 st problem im having is that i need to find the rear calipers for the compact trailing arms.
second problem is that the front wheel is sitting more close to the wing than centre!
can anyone please help me.
cheers
Re: e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:04 pm
by Motorhole
I believe you need wishbones from a post-98 E36 M3 to line the wheels up right - trying to collect bits for this myself!
Oh you might need adjustable top mounts too.
Re: e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:17 pm
by e21Jason
There is a thread some where and it used evo front hubs to get the wheel in the right spot
Re: e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:03 pm
by jmc330i
You need '97 onward e36 evo front control arms - those with the offset bushes you have will help to centre the wheel in the arch.
Re: e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:10 pm
by SHAZ325iSPORT
so i need to get e36 evo wishbones?
anything else?
and does anyone know where i can get them from?
Re: e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:01 pm
by e21Jason
Summary from this thread
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... t=stud+evo
Rear
E30 rear beam with new bushes, modified to allow me to adjust camber and toe independantly.
E36/ZM (thats the Mcoupe and ZMRoadster, no the ti) rear arms. I chose these because they are re-inforced and have the VERY large E36 M3 brake and driveshaft setup.
E36 M3/ZM rear disks/calipers/handbrakes
E30 Handbrake cables
Custom (made myself) rear flexi hoses that run from the E30 body, down the handbrake cables to banjo type bolts at the calipers.
E30 H&R 325i springs
E30 Bilstein shocks
Or you can use a complete rear subframe from a E36 318ti
Front
E36 M3 struts
E30 325i springs
E36 ARB droplinks.
E36 M3 Evo (3.2) Hubs
E36 M3 Evo (3.2) Lower wishbones
E30 M3 eccentric bushes
Adjustable (for camber) E30 topmounts and spring platforms (from Uwe on the zone).
Help from Jai
hope this helps.
Re: e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:41 pm
by jim_sohal
M3 wishbones bush and on the rear e36 5stud hub an bearing will fit
Re: e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:32 am
by bigbhpwannabe
yup you need the later e36 m3 wishbones = 31122228461
there the same as part number as z3m
as were too get them from , i cant find them apart from bmw , if you do find them post a link ;)
Re: e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:38 am
by SHAZ325iSPORT
right guys,a bit of a update,bought some E36 M3 Evo front wishbones,they arrived on friday and i fitted one side up today,wheel sits kind of in the centre,but still at full lock it rubs on the inside of the wheel arch,and now the top part of the wheel is sitting further out than the bottom,basically has tooooo much postive camber.
I AM REALLY GETTING ANOYED WITH THIS AND NEARLY PULLED OUT THE HAMMER ON THE MOTOR,SOMEONE PLEASE POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO SORT THIS OUT!
thankyou
Re: e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:44 am
by bodger
e21Jason wrote:Summary from this thread
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... t=stud+evo
Rear
E30 rear beam with new bushes, modified to allow me to adjust camber and toe independantly.
E36/ZM (thats the Mcoupe and ZMRoadster, no the ti) rear arms. I chose these because they are re-inforced and have the VERY large E36 M3 brake and driveshaft setup.
E36 M3/ZM rear disks/calipers/handbrakes
E30 Handbrake cables
Custom (made myself) rear flexi hoses that run from the E30 body, down the handbrake cables to banjo type bolts at the calipers.
E30 H&R 325i springs
E30 Bilstein shocks
Or you can use a complete rear subframe from a E36 318ti
Front
E36 M3 struts
E30 325i springs
E36 ARB droplinks.
E36 M3 Evo (3.2) Hubs
E36 M3 Evo (3.2) Lower wishbones
E30 M3 eccentric bushes
Adjustable (for camber) E30 topmounts and spring platforms (from Uwe on the zone).
Help from Jai
hope this helps.
Re: e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:52 am
by jaistanley
Dude.. seriously. Look at the specs I've posted previously (on my phone at the moment and cba to re type it all).
You need the m3 evo hubs, wishbones and eccentric e30 bushes to get the required geometry. I also reccomend using the e36 m3 struts as they have smaller springs (same as the e30). I have this set up on mine and it centres perfectly. More to the point the castor is the same as an e30 m3. There are no cheap options doing this swap i'm afraid.
Hope this helps.
Jai.
Re: e36 5 Stud Conversion Help!
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:25 am
by SHAZ325iSPORT
so all i need to get is e36 evo hubs,and e36 m3 struts?
as i have evo wishbones,and e30 bushes.