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HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:42 pm
by he30
Hi peeps!

Looking for advice to probable causes of my sport only pushing 145bhp! The cars 160k on the clock, had bbtb, zone wild chip,6 branch fitted. Plugs were changed last year.
Had it dyno'd this morning and the guy said it seemed to be struggling for fuel, which i sort of new as i fitted a new fuel pump recently.Powers good upto 4.500 revs then flatens and falls away?
Any thoughts/help/advice?
This explains me wanting more power! if she's nearly 30bhp down :cry:

HELP!

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:47 pm
by fuzzy
not the fuel filter clogged up with sh1te?

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:50 pm
by he30
Changed last year too? trouble is i only do 1500 miles a year, all of which in 'anger' I don't suppose this helps?

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:23 pm
by he30
anybody? :?

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:49 pm
by eko
clogged/dirty injetors?

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:53 pm
by he30
could be as it was running dog rough a couple of months back when it was in for some work having spent a couple of months starting up only to move a couple of yards?

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:14 pm
by ShepsEvo3
Possably the air flow meter?

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:44 pm
by Reflex
air flow meter or injectors is all i can think of, did you fit a standard pump, if not, ya might need an upgrade

bless

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:46 pm
by he30
yeah it was a standard like for like...
How much difference could the tappets make if they needed setting properly?

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:50 pm
by e30topless
I have spare injectors and a few airflow meters in Huddersfield you are welcome to swap/try these see if it helps ?

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:58 pm
by e30topless
having thought about it this could be a broken rocker :(

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:06 pm
by he30
e30topless wrote:I have spare injectors and a few airflow meters in Huddersfield you are welcome to swap/try these see if it helps ?
Willing to give it a try!cheers :? broken rocker?

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:14 pm
by he30
e30 topless you have pm

Re: HELP!! 325I WITH 318I power....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:00 pm
by omgyjya_switch7
Mines the same, 325i and only made 142bhp at the fly on the rollers. :(

Interested in some of the ideas thrown around here, mines was overfueling on the rollers, so could be fuel filter, FPR or injectors?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:09 pm
by johnl320
Careful fellas that BHP figure is getting dangerously close to 318is territory :wink:

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:41 pm
by E30Mark
Was that figure at the wheels? or calculated @ the fly.

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:14 pm
by stonesie
Calculated at the fly....... my own car went on the same rollers and recorded a mighty 71 bhp at the wheels, calculated and 'weather corrected' to 96... On a 320 but apparantly mine is leaning out above 4600 rpm


I won the "Wooden Spoon Award" because my engine is about as much use as one :twisted:

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:18 pm
by fuzzy
96 at the fly? was the rollers working properly?it must be quicker to use public transport :cry:

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:22 pm
by e30topless
just gave howards the once over, changed the AFM this made a slight improvement
compression test was good on all 6 pots
it seems to drive/run very well :)

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:26 pm
by stonesie
That's the strange thing, out on the road it is not a fast car, but it feels faster than that :mad:

It was made to feel very slow by a passenger ride in a E46 M3 CSL though :o:

Appologies to Howard for the spam... Will go start my own thread.

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:08 pm
by he30
e30topless wrote:just gave howards the once over, changed the AFM this made a slight improvement
compression test was good on all 6 pots
it seems to drive/run very well :)
Big thanks for this arvo Steve :thumb:

As said, taken the zone wild chip back out as well and reverted back to the original one, which has seemed to improve things as well, seems more responsive on acceleration and idles smoother! just dosen't seem to rev as high which isn't a problem :roll: New distributer cap going on and having the injectors cleaned and refurbed.

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:13 pm
by stonesie
http://www.injectorcleaning.co.uk/injectors.htm

Try that place, I have a set of 2.5 injectors you could have so you can send a set off without takeing the car off the road if it helps...

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:18 pm
by he30
stonesie wrote:http://www.injectorcleaning.co.uk/injectors.htm

Try that place, I have a set of 2.5 injectors you could have so you can send a set off without takeing the car off the road if it helps...
The now legendery e30topless (steve) has already give me a set! but thanks for the offer :D i think the sun's got everyone in a good mood!

Cheers peeps :cheers:

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:26 pm
by stonesie
That and i know how you feel :(

:P

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Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:29 pm
by he30
Ceers for the link too stonesie! will get them sent off :D

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:29 am
by ShepsEvo3
What rollers did it go on?

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:58 am
by stonesie
Its a Mustang Powerdyne at Dynotune in scunthorpe.

He did mention dyno dynamics and said they usually read high because they don't do the weather correction that he was doing with every car today... straight over my head if im honest :o:

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:10 am
by e30topless
the rollers were bolloxed IMO :)

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:06 am
by ShepsEvo3
e30topless wrote:the rollers were bolloxed IMO :)
Thats my thoughts lol.. Mustangs are ok, but I know someone who has one who had alot of trouble with it.

Dyno Dynamics need weather station readins inputted for every run really and they have an all too illusive intake temp sensor which some operators do not fit properly (ie, next to a hot radiator) which can throw readings sky high too.

The Dastek, Maha, Bosch, etc all have internal weather stations which cannot be tampered with.

But the figures being thrown about here and the fact that they are driving ok makes me wonder about the way the runs were carried out/readings given. :?

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:24 pm
by he30
I must admit i'm no expert, but my car was only on the rollers for 5mins? surely that's not enough time to get an accurate reading, one run up and then off? :evil:
Left not that overall impressed, won't be going back! :(

If i've taken anything from this, it's that it's give me a kick up the arse to do alittle more on the sport, and there's an array of new engine components on the way that probably should have been replaced long before now.And the fact i've met another top guy who'll proove invaluble to a novice like me lol! winkeye

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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:46 pm
by stonesie
I have had a word with one of my ex gaffers, he used to do some club level rallying and says they all go to Noble motorsport in chesterfield... Had a look round and can't find a bad word about them.

Mine will be having a run down there once the new lump is bedded in enough for a bit of motorway driving.