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front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:22 pm
by bodger
is there a poly bush available to replace the shitty rubber ones in the front suspension drop link, they seem to last six months then fall apart, i did drop the car back on its wheels before tightening the bolt but they still seem to tare :x

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:33 pm
by maxfield
Front droplink?? As in wishbone?

Or ARB droplink?

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:36 pm
by bodger
sorry, arb drop links :)

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:44 pm
by maxfield
Can't say I've ever really seen an upgrade for them..

Although I think you can get rose jointed ones but are pretty expensive.

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:47 pm
by DaveD

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:52 pm
by bodger
cheers fellas :D

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:12 pm
by Brianmoooore
IIRC, there's a link from a 5 series rear suspension that has a ball joint on both ends, and can replace the E30 link, with the addition of a little L shaped bracket for the bottom end.

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:58 pm
by monkey
Image i found these to work well and no bushes to fall apart . the links are mondeo estate 2000/2001 rear roll bar links think they where about £10 or so each .

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:39 am
by murran
you can buy the standard m10 rose joints and spacers for around £20 on ebay. chop the bush off the bottom of the link and thread the shaft and screw the rose joint on with a nut to lock it on. sorted.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/M10-Female-RH-Thr ... 240%3A1318

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/M10-METRIC-Misali ... 240%3A1318

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:27 pm
by bodger
got chance to do these today, obviously got a pair of bushes but fitted one then remembered to take some pics of the second one

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found this tool years ago, new it would come in for something

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old bush

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pressing old one out, i found a slice of the bottom of my axle stand to be the perfect size

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new one going in

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sleeve going in

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all done

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and fitted

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:33 am
by bodger
forgot to say thanks to daveD for the heads up on the bushes

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:53 am
by DaveD
ta ...I knew that link would come in useful one day! you will have to let us know what they are like on the road>

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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:43 am
by bodger
DaveD wrote:ta ...I knew that link would come in useful one day! you will have to let us know what they are like on the road>
no probs dave, tbh i wont get the full benefit as there on the e36 as they needed doing for the mot on wednesday but after a run out in it yesterday i can tell there is an improvement, a lot less roll on fast bends. i will be getting some more for my e30 now, cheers

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:31 pm
by mhuk
monkey wrote:Image i found these to work well and no bushes to fall apart . the links are mondeo estate 2000/2001 rear roll bar links think they where about £10 or so each .
I got some to go on. I'll update you when it's done. Cheers

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:35 pm
by mike_sayer
murran wrote:you can buy the standard m10 rose joints and spacers for around £20 on ebay. chop the bush off the bottom of the link and thread the shaft and screw the rose joint on with a nut to lock it on. sorted.
Have you done this murran? Does it work well? Any problems? Sounds like it could be a good solution with decent cost effectiveness!

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:41 pm
by mhuk
mhuk wrote:
monkey wrote:Image i found these to work well and no bushes to fall apart . the links are mondeo estate 2000/2001 rear roll bar links think they where about £10 or so each .
I got some to go on. I'll update you when it's done. Cheers
Fitted without a problem. Car feels firmer now. The driver side 'old' was not even bolted up when I went to remove!

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:08 pm
by Brianmoooore
Any idea of the Ford part number for these?

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:23 pm
by bodger
i just couldnt bring myself to fit a ford part to my bmw :teehee:

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:15 pm
by Brianmoooore
A grinder should deal with that, if it does have Ford markings.
There's also a 5 series rear suspension part, IIRC, that is similar in length and shape to the E30 link, but with a ball joint on each end. This needs a small L shaped bracket to be fabricated to fit it to an E30 arm.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:17 am
by town325i
bodger wrote:got chance to do these today, obviously got a pair of bushes but fitted one then remembered to take some pics of the second one

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found this tool years ago, new it would come in for something

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old bush

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pressing old one out, i found a slice of the bottom of my axle stand to be the perfect size

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Image


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new one going in

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Image

sleeve going in

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all done

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and fitted

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im not being funny but i personally would of used new drop links to put new bushes into

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:54 am
by DaveD
err why would you do that ...its the bushes that keep getting sh****d and new drop links come with new bushes which are OK if they are oem at £60/pair but ecp ones wear out quickly so replacing the bushes is one cheaper alternative

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:24 pm
by town325i
DaveD wrote:err why would you do that ...its the bushes that keep getting sh****d and new drop links come with new bushes which are OK if they are oem at £60/pair but ecp ones wear out quickly so replacing the bushes is one cheaper alternative
well the ball joints wears out too so why use old ones and put expensive bushes in worn out parts. its like put new track control arm bushes on old worn out track control arms!

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:22 pm
by abelai
town325i wrote:
DaveD wrote:err why would you do that ...its the bushes that keep getting sh****d and new drop links come with new bushes which are OK if they are oem at £60/pair but ecp ones wear out quickly so replacing the bushes is one cheaper alternative
well the ball joints wears out too so why use old ones and put expensive bushes in worn out parts. its like put new track control arm bushes on old worn out track control arms!
You have a point, but they are so easy to swap into new ones later I don't think it matters.

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:14 pm
by bodger
the links i put the bushes into are only 6 months old, when they wear out i will change the bushes into another used set of links as the balljoints rarely fail before the rubber bushes, the poly bushes were not expensive they cost the same as a cheap set of links from euro crap parts

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:31 pm
by DaveM42
That is useful to know, so there is a use for wrong wheel drive Fords after all :)

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:17 pm
by aj_mckay
Bodger - Stick that write-up in the Wiki :thumb:

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:59 pm
by town325i
bodger wrote:the links i put the bushes into are only 6 months old, when they wear out i will change the bushes into another used set of links as the balljoints rarely fail before the rubber bushes, the poly bushes were not expensive they cost the same as a cheap set of links from euro crap parts
that sounds fair enough to me

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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:49 pm
by bodger
aj_mckay wrote:Bodger - Stick that write-up in the Wiki :thumb:
not sure how to mate, feel free to stick it on wiki if you like :D

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:36 pm
by murran
mike_sayer wrote:
murran wrote:you can buy the standard m10 rose joints and spacers for around £20 on ebay. chop the bush off the bottom of the link and thread the shaft and screw the rose joint on with a nut to lock it on. sorted.
Have you done this murran? Does it work well? Any problems? Sounds like it could be a good solution with decent cost effectiveness!
yeah, i did it on my touring. was fine.
only problem is needing a tap and die set to thread the shaft on the drop link.

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:32 pm
by ed325i

Re: front drop link poly bushes

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:00 pm
by Theo
Don't get cheap rose joints though, I bent the ones I fitted to my track car!