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e30 steering for a rallycar
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:42 am
by irishrally
hi everyone. neeed a bit of help please. i have bn told i can fit an e36 m3 steering rack to my e30 316rally car? is this true & how u do it please ? and also do u know where i can get a quick rack for an e30 and how much?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:48 am
by astondg
It is true. I have an E36 steering rack on my 323i, not sure if it is M3 or normal (probably normal) but they are the same or very similar to fit.
Doing this may require modifications to the exhaust or exhaust manifold to get it to fit and if you have power steering I think you need to get new pipes mad up for the power steering fluid. I also think that the coupling on the shaft from the steering wheel has to be made up from a combination of the E30 and E36 bits or modified slightly or something. I think it is not too bad though and definately worth it, especially for motorsport.
I have heard that the 1.9L Z3 is even quicker than the E36 M3 (M3 is about 3.2 turns and Z3 is supposed to be under 3 I think?). There is a thread about this that you can search for. I think someone mentioned they have a proper quick steering rack too, about 2 turns lock to lock or something.
Aston
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:38 am
by gareth
check the articles section on the site, it's all on there!
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:01 am
by M3Compact
If you don't need PAS, a 2.25 turns, LHD Talbot Sunbeam rack can be fitted upside down, even uses standard TREs.
I know two people who use this set up in E30 rally cars.
If you use E36, the Z3 1.9 is deffo the way to go. (2.75 turns.)
The E36 M3 rack has less turns lock to lock than the 'standard' E36 rack, but it outputs less and is the same 'speed'/ratio.
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:08 am
by Andy325i
As Gareth mentioned Ian has written an excellent tech artical about it
Here is my new steering joint:
Andy
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:35 am
by Brianmoooore
In the Yahoo E30 group there is a thread going at the moment with a link to a gearbox device that replaces part of the steering column, and reduces the number of steering turns by 1 : 1.5 .
Anyone ever tried one of these or have any knowledge of them?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:46 am
by gareth
can you post up the link please brian?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:55 pm
by Brianmoooore
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:16 pm
by Widge
So where does one get a LHD Talbot Sunbeam rack then?
I was thinking of dumping the PAS anyway.
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:52 pm
by Brianmoooore
There's a couple of owner's clubs, especially for the Lotus version.
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:52 pm
by Karan
Widge wrote:So where does one get a LHD Talbot Sunbeam rack then?
I was thinking of dumping the PAS anyway.
if u gonna dump power steering.... TAS quick rack 2 turns is the way forward
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:23 pm
by Widge
Yeah but I wanna do it on the cheap, preferrebly get a rack from a scrappy.
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:42 am
by Taffy
TAS are also not in existence anymore, they owe me a quick rack!

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:06 am
by M3Compact
Taffy wrote:TAS are also not in existence anymore, they owe me a quick rack!


Didn't know that, it's a bummer about your rack Dominic.
I saw a TAS 'weld on coil over adaptor' for some front struts, what a load of rubbish, I wouldn't have used it on a push bike.
There are loads of LHD Sunbeam racks around Widge, less than Ԛ£100 usually. I'll find a link.
There's a member on here uses one. (Jon Finch, from Pickering.)
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:32 am
by Widge
Cheers mate

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:15 pm
by HillclimbE30
So I'm not the only one who was waiting to hear from TAS only to find telephone number not available, no website or e-mail response.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:32 pm
by M3Compact
HillclimbE30 wrote:So I'm not the only one who was waiting to hear from TAS only to find telephone number not available, no website or e-mail response.
They've set-up under a different name and continued trading apparently.
Haven't found a LHD rack link yet Widge.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:55 pm
by Brianmoooore
There are websites where you can request parts from lots of scrapyards, who email you with price and availibility.
Presumably they have something similar in the LH drive countries of Europe.
If you can find a link to one of these sites you might get results.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:13 pm
by M3Compact
Brianmoooore wrote:There are websites where you can request parts from lots of scrapyards, who email you with price and availibility.
Presumably they have something similar in the LH drive countries of Europe.
If you can find a link to one of these sites you might get results.
The rally sites/Ebay Eurpoe too. There are loads of these racks around.
A guy I know used to buy/break Sunbeam rally cars, he binned 2 LHD Q/Rs last year.