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electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:05 pm
by snake-eyes
my electric windows only work when the doors are open in my 1990 318is and the buttons light up with the doors closed and ignition off!

any ideas?
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:13 pm
by sweep
my 1990 325i does the same mate! strange..
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:15 pm
by SPADGE
Check the smallest terminal on the starter motor and make sure it is making a decent connection.
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:24 pm
by scottidog
could this be a door connector? where the loom leaves the door itself and goes into the body? I had a car once did something similar but wasnt my e30
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:25 pm
by SPADGE
scottidog wrote:could this be a door connector? where the loom leaves the door itself and goes into the body? I had a car once did something similar but wasnt my e30
Most unlikely
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:14 pm
by Pretty-in-Pink
I seem to remember that there is two feeds going to the electric windows. One from the ignition and one from the door pin switches (so you can close the windows with the ignition off)
It sounds like the main feed or something in that circuit
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:07 pm
by 318
I also have the same problem

but a bit diffrent
When the pass door open the window lights lite up and work all ok but when the drivers door open nothing works
Please help its driving me nuts

Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:40 am
by 318
Any body

Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:53 am
by SPADGE
318 wrote:Any body

Remove the door light switch from the drivers door and make sure BOTH of its electrical connectors are present and that the switch itself is working as it should.
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:05 am
by wiledw
Check the fuse under the bonnet, sometimes it the simplest thing

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:16 am
by 318
Thanks guys I will go and have a look

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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:32 pm
by AndyG
all e30's I've had do this, if ignition is off you open the doors, when the interior lights come on it powers the window switches. Why or how I don't know but its not a fault. The 325i I bought back in 87 did this and that was brand new.
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:38 pm
by 320ise
mite sound daft but have you got the window disable switch pushed so its pushing up with the red ring around it as i think the windows will still open when the doors open wheather switch is on or off.
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:40 pm
by baur320
snake-eyes wrote:my electric windows only work when the doors are open in my 1990 318is and the buttons light up with the doors closed and ignition off!

any ideas?
Mine are the opposite - only work with the ignition on and the doors closed.
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:27 am
by aj_mckay
I noticed something similar on my iS the other day while sat waiting for someone with the engine, lights & ignition off - the switches for windows & roof were all lit up still and still opened the windows. I tried it with me locked into the car too - all stayed lit up and working!!!

No idea what's going on there - haven't even looked at it yet...
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:44 am
by SPADGE
aj_mckay wrote:I noticed something similar on my iS the other day while sat waiting for someone with the engine, lights & ignition off - the switches for windows & roof were all lit up still and still opened the windows. I tried it with me locked into the car too - all stayed lit up and working!!!

No idea what's going on there - haven't even looked at it yet...
It'll be a fault with the door switch fella
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:01 pm
by aj_mckay
SPADGE wrote:aj_mckay wrote:I noticed something similar on my iS the other day while sat waiting for someone with the engine, lights & ignition off - the switches for windows & roof were all lit up still and still opened the windows. I tried it with me locked into the car too - all stayed lit up and working!!!

No idea what's going on there - haven't even looked at it yet...
It'll be a fault with the door switch fella
Sounds about right, cheers Jules. I'll take a look and maybe give you a shout if a new one is needed. Wouldn't be surprised if that contributed to the untimely death of my old battery - don't wanna kill another one just yet!!
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:37 pm
by johnlouis
The main window feed can come from two places, and it is decided where it will get the power from by a relay which is energised with the interior lights (via a separae take off from the drivers door light switch.)
I have a funny feeling there is two fuses for the windows, ign off and ign on.
CHeck the drivers door switch and the purple relay behind the glovebox. Very common relay fault btw, also kickable from the passenger seat.
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 4:57 pm
by Jindmahi
Try cleaning the switches...take them apart with a little flat headed screw driver use alcohol and a tiny wire brush to clean the metal contacts...mine started doing the same after I spilt "fake" burgerking cola..seems ok now...and also clean the push/pop switch which operates the cabin light..try it might work
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:41 pm
by Ilkorin
still have this problem myself, posted a thread on it a while back:
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=117065
just haven't had time to have a poke around yet....the description of how the system works is somewhere in that thread....
Re: electric windows only work when door's open?
Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:31 pm
by BigBavarian
This has just hapened on my 318is, everything was fine got the m50 fitted and they still worked. Toook door cards off so i could get the locks out to get it painted and now he windows only work with the door open.