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In theory nothing, the only thing I wouldnt be sure about is the ABS - are there differences between the E36 and E30 ABS?Brianmoooore wrote:Brianmoooore wrote:The E30, E36s with rear discs, E30 M3 and Z3 2.8 all use the same rear wheel bearings. So what's the problem with fitting one of these five stud hubs onto an ordinary E30 trailing arm?
Listen,i work in a machine shop and know that making these would be costly,very costly.Royalratch wrote:It's not the advice, just the throw away manner.
We've been discussing different options and actually trying to see if there is a different way for a while. Many have 'suggested' just chucking on all M3 stuff - so thanks for repeating.
I bet you it's cheaper to get hubs machined.
If you are just fitting the M3 or E36 rear hubs (if the E36 hubs fit), then you will need to buy calipers to suit the larger available 5 stud discs - buying a complete trailing arm with calipers/discs etc would be the easier, but more expensive route.Royalratch wrote: Why are people talking about M3/Z3 trailing arms if E36 hubs bolt straight on to E30 rear axles?
nope, sick pay at heathrow is good, got other jobs that pay cash in hand !! LoLjonb wrote:Chirst kos
Your arms must be aching from all that overtime at heathrow.
How is changing over an entire trailing arm set-up easier than just bolting new hubs onto your existing set-up?jmc330i wrote:If you are just fitting the M3 or E36 rear hubs (if the E36 hubs fit), then you will need to buy calipers to suit the larger available 5 stud discs - buying a complete trailing arm with calipers/discs etc would be the easier, but more expensive route.Royalratch wrote: Why are people talking about M3/Z3 trailing arms if E36 hubs bolt straight on to E30 rear axles?
Or, as I said earlier in thread, you could redrill the 4 stud E30 disc to 5 stud and keep the brakes as they are, making the rear conversion pretty cheap.
Try and remove a hub from an arm.. i think you'll understand. Cant remember whats involved doing a hub swap, but if it's anything like a bearing swap, its a real ball ache.Royalratch wrote:How is changing over an entire trailing arm set-up easier than just bolting new hubs onto your existing set-up?jmc330i wrote:If you are just fitting the M3 or E36 rear hubs (if the E36 hubs fit), then you will need to buy calipers to suit the larger available 5 stud discs - buying a complete trailing arm with calipers/discs etc would be the easier, but more expensive route.Royalratch wrote: Why are people talking about M3/Z3 trailing arms if E36 hubs bolt straight on to E30 rear axles?
Or, as I said earlier in thread, you could redrill the 4 stud E30 disc to 5 stud and keep the brakes as they are, making the rear conversion pretty cheap.
I meant more of a convenience factor in getting complete trailing arms with larger discs and calipers to suit, rather than fitting new hubs/bearings and redrilling the 4 stud discs to retain the stock set up, or sourcing new calipers etc.oze30 wrote:Try and remove a hub from an arm.. i think you'll understand. Cant remember whats involved doing a hub swap, but if it's anything like a bearing swap, its a real ball ache.Royalratch wrote:How is changing over an entire trailing arm set-up easier than just bolting new hubs onto your existing set-up?jmc330i wrote: If you are just fitting the M3 or E36 rear hubs (if the E36 hubs fit), then you will need to buy calipers to suit the larger available 5 stud discs - buying a complete trailing arm with calipers/discs etc would be the easier, but more expensive route.
Or, as I said earlier in thread, you could redrill the 4 stud E30 disc to 5 stud and keep the brakes as they are, making the rear conversion pretty cheap.
A rear trailing arm: just undo 2 bolts, brake lines and handbrakes and thats it. swap it over. less hassle in my opinion.
In my experience the average scrappy doesn't really get this kind of stuff. You need to try people like Moseley Motorsport. Maybe even Fritz's. If they both draw a blank then ask them who else you can try. Joh at FAB may also be worth a shot. He won't have them but he would know who would.Royalratch wrote:Got a list of scrappies you recommend in anywhere south of Birmingham?
Hey buster,buster wrote:i want 5 stud also.I wouldn't care but i could of had the struts off the car i got the engine from but i didnt know they would fit until glenn fitted them to his 350.
I know what you mean about the bmw m3 ones but try and find some.
I work in a machine shop so re drilling them wouldn't be a problem as i could do it properly on a machine.It would have 4 and 5 stud pattern therefore if i drilled the disks the same i could fit both wheels !!!
the front e36 complete strut is a good idea as it solves the need for brake upgrade also.
dont H+r do adaptors, sure a coule of zoners are using themAnyone doing adapters?
Thats the theory and my plan. The bearings are all the same as are the arms except for different brackets (brake pipe/handbrake cable) on the M3 arms.Turbo-Brown wrote: You can get an E30 M3 rear hub and bearing, and fit them to standard E30 trailing arms?
I've just called the dealers and the hubs are only £72 each so I'm thinking I might do it just to save hassle on sourcing second hand parts.
There's 2 options that I can see. Using M3 calipers and carriers OR Get some rear discs redrilled to 5x120 and use the stock calipers.jmc330i wrote:Thats the theory and my plan. The bearings are all the same as are the arms except for different brackets (brake pipe/handbrake cable) on the M3 arms.Turbo-Brown wrote: You can get an E30 M3 rear hub and bearing, and fit them to standard E30 trailing arms?
I've just called the dealers and the hubs are only £72 each so I'm thinking I might do it just to save hassle on sourcing second hand parts.
Whats your plan for the rear brakes?
