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'91 318iS minor resto.. ;-)
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:42 am
by Split_S
Finally picked up an E30 this week.. a 318iS, DOB 07/01/91. I would have liked a m3 but
my wallet didnt like the flared quarter panels... Anyway, I downloaded the
"Buying an e30 guide" and left it at home, unread, as I headed out to check
out this 318iS. I even rented a trailer, just in case I bought it, so I could
drag it home...This was the result...
I did kinda check it out though...
Long story short, I bought it and brought it home...
I sat and looked it for a while, still kinda amazed Id bought it...
I hadn't even test driven it (who cares?) as the brakes were not connected...
The PO was in the process of changing the brakes when he realized he didn't
really have the $$ to dump into this car... The engine ran though and
sounded good... So I backed it into the driveway and started having a look...
Now, Im not a mechanic and Ive never played around with cars at all but I
thought a closer look was in order... Sooo I pulled out the DS seat...
That was kinda cool so I pulled out the PS seat too...
and then some other bits...
the carpet made an exit and then some more was yanked...
Now the more astute among you may have noticed a wee bit of steel among
the rust there... Im scratching my head now wondering if I would have
been better off spending the $$ Id just spent on bringing the kids to
Disneyland...
Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:03 am
by Split_S
Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:22 am
by Split_S
So with my "new" 1991 318iS starting to shed weight in a drastic fashion Ive some decisions
to make... Im not a mechanic but I am stubborn and not afraid of rust (but seized bolts terrify
me). I bought the car for the following reasons:
1) I LOVE this model. I thought I loved my E46 but the E30 is truly a classic.
2) I dont know sh*t about mechanics but I am fairly able. Here is the chance to learn.
3) I will get to weld. 'Nuff said.
4) This car was fairly near death. Being a non-religious guy (though I do go to church...for fun mostly...)
I want to resurrect it if you will... But I want to keep it stock..no fancy BS plastic bits and loads
of aftermarket nonsense...
5) Having purchased it without being able to drive it at all, its kinda motivating to look forward to the day
I can fire her up for the first time and take her out and stretch her legs....
So Ive decided to restore her best I can..
Most, if not all of you, will think Im f@*ken nuts and I agree. But
here we go...
It will be a LONG journey...
Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:45 am
by adit
welcome to E30 ownership in all it's glory "split"

Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:58 am
by Automaton
Great start.
And thanks for the pictures, will help me show the bare interior panels to the welder, sorry floor maker,
We will attempt following the patterns in the metal.
Where do you get the replacement insulation?
Does after market stuff like 'Dampmat' do the trick?
Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:40 pm
by Split_S
Great start.
And thanks for the pictures, will help me show the bare interior panels to the welder, sorry floor maker, Smile
We will attempt following the patterns in the metal.
Where do you get the replacement insulation?
Does after market stuff like 'Dampmat' do the trick?
Im planning on using the OEM noise insulation. It comes in sheets, which you cut your pattern out and then heat it up to mold it to shape.. There is also stuff like hushmat, which is peel and stick.. That also looks good. But that will be done only after the repaint... Nowhere near there yet!
Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:21 pm
by Automaton
Thanks will check the local dealer for some when we come to it.
Till then will be following this DIY refurbishment thread.
cheers!
Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:00 pm
by Split_S
Thanks... I'll do my best...
Sound insulation Bmw part # is 51488165271, listing at 50$ US for a 116 x 70cm sheet...
Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:06 pm
by Automaton
Would you have a picture of metal behind the door cards by any chance?
I need a reference of the door interiors without cards.
Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:44 pm
by Split_S
Automaton wrote:Would you have a picture of metal behind the door cards by any chance?
I need a reference of the door interiors without cards.
No.. the doors are off and in storage while the bodywork advances... I did not take the cards off (yet) but when I do I will post... Sorry...
Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:30 pm
by Automaton
Thanks will wait

Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:38 pm
by dirtee-herbert
looks like you have made a flying start. the car looks like a fantastic candidate for a 'resurrection' from the photos.
Im a big fan of the IS model tho I am a touring man myself and I love the red car tan interior combo.
best of luck

Re: "New" 318iS minor resto...
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:05 pm
by Split_S
dirtee-herbert wrote:looks like you have made a flying start. the car looks like a fantastic candidate for a 'resurrection' from the photos.
Im a big fan of the IS model tho I am a touring man myself and I love the red car tan interior combo.
best of luck

Thanks - from the amount of stuff coming out of the car I will need more than luck! 
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:56 pm
by Split_S
Well the adventure continues...
After removing the front bumper cover, which was a fairly straight forward affair: remove screws and slide off, an epic battle was fought with both the front and rear bumpers... The front finally gave in once common sense was applied instead of brute force and stupidity..
Loosen the 2 bolts on the bottom of the bumper. Those facing you hold the metal support plate to the bumper... They dont loosen.

Above, on the far left, you see where the bolt screws into...
The rear bumper however, hung on and eventually needed an angle grinder and some strong language to finally be persuaded to let go.
The bolt heads had to be cut off as no amount of torque, loose nut or cursing was getting them off. As a result I had to cut the tow hook to access the bolts - no great loss - I wanted it gone anyways. Something about a tow hook says to me "This car is shitty, it will probably break down..." So none of that on my car...
Removing the front bumper revealed some very slight damage to the right side shock mount: evidence of a thump sometime in the cars past:
As best as I can tell that is the extent of the damage..The left side mount had no damage at all and there are no ripples any where else or evidence of repair anywhere....
With the bumpers off I could have a looksee at the metal behind and this is what I saw:
I need to get a welder...
Oh.. and I need to learn how to weld....

Re:
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:21 am
by Automaton
Looks like a bunch of parts from a white car are attached?
Looking forward to the cut and weld adventure.
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:12 am
by nickso
When you replace the battery box in the boot just bin the tow eye, its a pointless rust trap. If you still need a tow eye you can fab one out of a front tow eye and put it in the rear bumper like mine.
Least the front bulkhead looks solid.
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Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:15 pm
by Split_S
Automaton wrote:Looks like a bunch of parts from a white car are attached?
Looking forward to the cut and weld adventure.
No, only the rear boot lid.. The original, which I have, was rusted all along the seams. The PO had replaced it only a few weeks ago with used 325 lid.
When you replace the battery box in the boot just bin the tow eye, its a pointless rust trap. If you still need a tow eye you can fab one out of a front tow eye and put it in the rear bumper like mine.
Least the front bulkhead looks solid.
Absolutely..Its gone... I will look into how to cut out the base and patch weld it so it looks as if it was never there...
Well work continues... The car seems happy in my garage, kinda like its thinking "F$ck its about time!".. Maybe its just me....

The M42 is a nice looking engine. I look at it and compare it to my M54 in my E46 and see many similarities.. I cant wait to yank it out!
One thing I am thinking about is the seasons. Being in Canada, winter is not too far away and I have to plan my work around the fact its gonna be really cold really soon... I had planned on doing body work all winter but I have scrapped that idea as I dont have ventilation in my garage to deal with the dust all that bodywork will generate. So the plan is now to get some welding done before its too cold to work with the doors open, redo the rear suspension in all its glory, yank the engine and at some point rebuild some components of the engine. Maybe, just maybe, I may pull the dash out but that is scaring the sh*t out of me right now....
Here is the state of the rear of the car as we speak:

Remember my comments on Disneyland?...

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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:27 pm
by Split_S
Chugging along...
Time to get that bonnet out of the way...
Step 1: Open bonnet...
See bracket on right under all that grease..
Bracket on left under same grease...
Both at once...
BEAUTIFUL...
Identify tubing for wiper spray nozzles... Remove...
Remove rusty roller guides and set aside for deep cleaning
Take note of grounding strap and then loosen all those bolts...
Call a thirsty friend and tell him you have beer.. Once he's at your
place...well... now you know how I got help removing my bonnet..
No time to waste remove that ugly washer reservoir..Im thinking relocating
it to the boot...
Feeling good I then worked on the lights, removing the plastic grills..
Grills out, loosen bolts that hold light bracket in place then...
Pray to God you can remember how to put it all back a year from now....
Ta-daaaa...
Now I have to build a second shed to start putting ALL THIS STUFF in it...

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:51 pm
by Split_S
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:59 pm
by Widge
Awesome thread mate, keep up the good work.
The IS is a great car, and although you have some tin worm to deal with, it will all come good.
Dont worry about being scared by the dashboard etc, there is plenty of explanation on the net and in the Wiki, and people on here who have done it all before to help. And at the end of the day these cars arent THAT complicated!
As for the welding, you'll want a MIG! Feel free to PM me if you need any more help, onlearning or chosing a welding set.
I've done sub-sea welding, but usually on things with less rust

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:13 pm
by adit
w/w bottle in the boot?
it looks pretty clean now, to me
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:22 pm
by Split_S
Widge wrote:Awesome thread mate, keep up the good work.
The IS is a great car, and although you have some tin worm to deal with, it will all come good.
Dont worry about being scared by the dashboard etc, there is plenty of explanation on the net and in the Wiki, and people on here who have done it all before to help. And at the end of the day these cars arent THAT complicated!
As for the welding, you'll want a MIG! Feel free to PM me if you need any more help, onlearning or chosing a welding set.
I've done sub-sea welding, but usually on things with less rust

Thanks!! I'll probably be taking you up on that offer!- Got a Miller 175 Mig welder too.. Blowing holes through some metal already!!
w/w bottle in the boot? Confused
it looks pretty clean now, to me
Just think the engine bay will look awesome without it.. Besides, who ever wants to see the boot?? 
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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:39 pm
by Split_S
Short Post... Doors are off and those with keen eyesight will see the boot lid is off too...

Removing the pins is the EASY way of removing the doors... I left the brackets in place... RH door will have to be replaced though..Bottom is rusted out...
Written notes on pics are for my reference...
No clue what that blue wire is for...
I like the look of her, all stripped down... sexy...
Next up is getting some of the accessories off the engine...
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:20 pm
by Split_S
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:41 pm
by JM2012
Good stuff, well and truely getting stuck in!
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:37 pm
by Jesus325iTouring
What a cracking write up

Look forward to reading more, I like the style!
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:10 pm
by Jozi
Great thread this, looking forward to more updates. I might also have to reference your images for when my own goes back together, the notes on them are a great idea!
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:32 pm
by Split_S
Jesus325iTouring wrote:What a cracking write up

Look forward to reading more, I like the style!
Cheers, thanks...
Jozi wrote:Great thread this, looking forward to more updates. I might also have to reference your images for when my own goes back together, the notes on them are a great idea!
My pleasure.. have at her...was a bit embarrassed about the notes though but wtf... makes sense to have 'em.."
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:04 pm
by Split_S
While doing all this nonsense I also found the courage to disconnect the throttle cable...
Bracket is overtop the charcoal canister bracket:
Pic of throttle assembly but what I like in this pic is my completely SEIZED blower in the background.. Can't wait to tackle that biatch....
Joining the starter and other orphaned components on my workbench:
Mr Power himself:
and his amigo, El bomba...
Soaked this stuff in Evaporust:
Before:
After:

Water and molasses does the same thing at a 9:1 ratio (9 parts water to one part molasses) but takes a bit longer and may affect other metals, but is way cheaper...Evaporust wont attack other metals, is faster but cost way more.. either way end result is the same...
While I was waiting on that my wife brought me this:
and the mailman brought me this:
Which led to MORE stuff on my workbench.....
Im very happy right now..... 
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:38 pm
by Split_S
Alright zoners, this is where she's at:
Ignition coil was removed as Im planning a CoP setup.. Gotta figure that one out later on...
I also removed the fan using my home made fan clutch removal tool which I'd just recently made for my e46... (shitty thermostat!). Here is a pic...
Its 34cm long by 4cm wide... Center of 1st hole is 5.8cm from edge and closer hole center is 2cm from edge...
Diameter of half moon is 3.6cm with the center at 4cm from the edge...
Worked great on both the e30 and e46... Hope this helps someone out...
Im torn between going electric or just remounting a new fan and clutch (this clutch is finished).
Anyone notice any differences going electric? Pros / cons?? Recommendations??
I also started removing the loom in the engine compartment too... It was kinda like the first time I had sex: slow, awkward, kinda scary..
With it all disconnected I put everything in a plastic bag.. Im not planning on removing the loom from the car as that scares the sh@t out of me...
Joking aside it was quite straightforward to take off but Im not at the point of taking the complete loom out. Im trying to pace out the work and I dont want to pull the dash just yet as Ive simply got nowhere to put it!! Can't build another damn shed now can I!! So the plan is just to remove what I can and get it all ready... I've wrapped the loom ends in garbage bags to keep from repeatedly stepping on it...
All in all Im pleased with how far she's come.. Unlike most of you I've never messed around with cars before, so for me, this is pretty intense!!
Here's an artist shot of the old and the not so-old...

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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:08 pm
by Split_S
Not that anyone cares but just scored a MINT crack-free dash on ebay... 450 cdn... looks new... pics to follow...
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:14 pm
by Widge
Hey mate. Well done on the build, and the new dash.
Love reading the thread - please keep posting - even if no one comments!! There will be plenty of poeple reading it and learning little details!
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:18 pm
by Split_S
Thanks, comments like yours makes all the extra hassle of putting this together worth it.... cheers!
Pics...
Just 7hrs of driving to go pick it up, 570$ to pay for it, 2 more years of toil to get the car up and running and she'll look great!
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:19 pm
by polsta
good work that man, good read and good progress
heater blower- very easy to remove, just unclips and pulls out , takes 2 minutes
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Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:29 pm
by Split_S
Coming soon to a theatre near you...... (
not really)
(
Cue deep throated movie trailer guy...)
Day 19.... Engine Day....
One Man.....One lift....One Engine to bind them all....
The adventure continues in solid 2d!!
