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4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:56 pm
by mattster
Did there ever make a 4 door 325 sport or are the one's knockin bout at the minute all home made? :? :?

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:57 pm
by Jhonno
No they never made a 4 door Sport

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:00 pm
by maxfield
Don't fall for the 'it says Sport on the logbook' either.

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:57 pm
by AlexBaur325
Deja vu...

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:11 pm
by kidsinister
You could spec a four-door 325i up with all the sport extras, I think. Still wouldn't be called a Sport though.

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:05 pm
by hubble
A thousand lashes for anyone claiming to own a 4 door sport

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:19 pm
by tom325sport
you mean this...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CLASIC-BMW-E30-32 ... dZViewItem

nothing to do with seller!!!

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:22 pm
by GrindCulture
It's got one of those super sporty automatic gearboxes too!

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:27 pm
by dannyboy759
Technically there is no such thing as a sport!
Wasn't it a UK marketing ploy to sell more cars, Just because its got four doors don't mean it's not a sport!
I know what your mean though by the default definition of a "sport" is two door with plastic stuck on the sides, but like has been said you could spec any car up to sport spec.
In Europe for example you get sports to full sport spec, roof lining gear box lsd the lot, two or four door so never say never.
And just to put the cat amongst the pigeons there's is no such model on the EPC so does it really exist!!!!
Id say if its full sport spec lsd all the trimming, it doesnt matter wether its two or four door.

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:44 pm
by jbh
dannyboy759 wrote:Technically there is no such thing as a sport!
Wasn't it a UK marketing ploy to sell more cars,
explain why if i phone the dealer and give them my chassis number the dealer says 325i sport!!! it may have been a uk ploy but the UK dealer still recognizes it as a sport..

if you go onto the epc does it give you the other models ? also to buy a replacement wing pod from a dealer for an mtech 2 kit you need to provide them with a chassis number of a car that left the factory with the kit.. ive ran into this when i was replacing one on my tech2 sport a few years ago i had to go in with my v5 before they would order the replacement part for me

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:03 pm
by hubble
tom325sport wrote:you mean this...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CLASIC-BMW-E30-32 ... dZViewItem

nothing to do with seller!!!
Oh no please. Right get the whip.

Hmmm chrome trim too Optional extra was it :wink:

''DOLFIN GREY'' - Sorry who?

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:04 pm
by dannyboy759
explain why if i phone the dealer and give them my chassis number the dealer says 325i sport!!! it may have been a uk ploy but the UK dealer still recognizes it as a sport..
It will as the chassis number is speced as a "sport" the same way when you give them the chassis number for an SE it comes up as an SE!
if you go onto the epc does it give you the other models ?
Yes it does there is a 325ix a a 320is etc but it doesnt mention a sport on the etk!

In Europe Germany especially they do other limited modael of BMWs that we dont get over here, they are offical bmw cars but you wont find an E46 320i EDITION on the etk, they are just speced up E46 320´s.
also to buy a replacement wing pod from a dealer for an mtech 2 kit you need to provide them with a chassis number of a car that left the factory with the kit
Thats just to make sure you are getting the right part! nothing to do with having a sport or not!
i had to go in with my v5 before they would order the replacement part for me
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Once again to make sure the dealer orders you the correct part, no other reason.

There was a thing years ago that you couldnt get an M badge unless you could prove you owned the car, rubbish never such a thing.

Dont get me wrong i love sprts, lovely looking car but you could spec up and car to that spec.

Ive seen IS´s in Germany with the full mtec kit lsd black roof linning all the sprt gear just a 318is!
The best example i can give is my lhd car its full sport spec apart from the aerokit but its a four door!

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:15 pm
by pacerpete
Wasn't the 4 door 'sport' a limited edition available with all engines including an M10 :eek: and only sold new in birmingham ? :)

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:16 pm
by hubble
There was a thing years ago that you couldnt get an M badge unless you could prove you owned the car, rubbish never such a thing.
Sorry but I beg to differ, That was in force at two of my local dealerships. Quite simply if you didnt have an 'M' car before your not coming in' Scenario. End of.

Luckily I pulled a few strings and got hold of both a rear and front 'M' :wink:

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:19 pm
by pacerpete
hubble wrote:
There was a thing years ago that you couldnt get an M badge unless you could prove you owned the car, rubbish never such a thing.
Sorry but I beg to differ, That was in force at two of my local dealerships. Quite simply if you didnt have an 'M' car before your not coming in' Scenario. End of.

Luckily I pulled a few strings and got hold of both a rear and front 'M' :wink:
BMW still won't sell you an M badge unless you give them a vin off a proper M car. Luckily for 325 sport owners ebay isn't as fussy ! :)

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:26 pm
by hubble
pacerpete wrote:BMW still won't sell you an M badge unless you give them a vin off a proper M car. Luckily for 325 sport owners ebay isn't as fussy ! :)
ebay has many a copy badges. Our friends in the far east have a lot to answer for :-x

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:15 pm
by bss325i
Same goes with alpina parts from the dealer, vin required.

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:22 pm
by pacerpete
bss325i wrote:Same goes with alpina parts from the dealer, vin required.
So how come so many zoners have tasteful 17" 'pinas ? :?

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:27 pm
by bss325i
pacerpete wrote:
bss325i wrote:Same goes with alpina parts from the dealer, vin required.
So how come so many zoners have tasteful 17" 'pinas ? :?
The must have friendly dealers, dealers of scrap metal lol!

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:38 pm
by hubble
bss325i wrote:
pacerpete wrote:
bss325i wrote:Same goes with alpina parts from the dealer, vin required.
So how come so many zoners have tasteful 17" 'pinas ? :?
The must have friendly dealers, dealers of scrap metal lol!
Now, now Chuckle chuckle :D

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:04 pm
by jbh
when i called the dealer i gave them the part number for the wing pod and they told me i could only order this with v5 as to prove it was for a genuine car. i can understand the 325ix and the 320is coming up on the etc as the ix and the 320is has a different drive train to a normal 325i or 320i the 320is has the 2.0 version of the m3 engine and is a 4 cylinder twin cam engine where as your normal 320 has the m20 6 cylinder engine and the 325ix is 4 wheel drive also the 320is has disk brakes all round where as the standard 320 has drums on the back. does the 325se come up on the etc? or the 320se?

also the 318is had the black roof lining as standard and all cars had the option of sport interior and the 318is also had the option of the LSD and mtech kit I'm sure to say. but if the car was specked with it from new then yes the dealer will supply it was what they told me where as if it wasn't specked with it from new they wont supply it.. when i bought my last 4 cars Ive called the dealer and gave them the vin number and they can tell me every detail on the car as it left the show room down to the carpet, interior colour whether it had elec windows extra even if it had factory alarm extra

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:32 pm
by bss325i
dannyboy759 wrote:Technically there is no such thing as a sport!
Wasn't it a UK marketing ploy to sell more cars, Just because its got four doors don't mean it's not a sport!
I know what your mean though by the default definition of a "sport" is two door with plastic stuck on the sides, but like has been said you could spec any car up to sport spec.
In Europe for example you get sports to full sport spec, roof lining gear box lsd the lot, two or four door so never say never.
And just to put the cat amongst the pigeons there's is no such model on the EPC so does it really exist!!!!
Id say if its full sport spec lsd all the trimming, it doesnt matter wether its two or four door.
I've never seen any e30 in this country other than an M3, sport or 318is with a black headlining. I'm pretty sure it was ever availible as an option in this country.
The sport is a proper model even if it isn't listed sepereate from other 325's on the etk.
The bottom line is there is no such thing as a four door sport and a genuine sport it worth a premium over a normal 325i even if it has identical spec.

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:26 am
by dannyboy759
The sport is a proper model
A UK model only, the rest of the world never got it!
If the Germans done an E30 which had, say 4 wheel drive, black head lining, sports seats as standard and leather.
Alpina suspension and a tech1 kit and they called it a 325 elite or something would you regard it as a proper model or a German dealer spin off?
There's loads of cars that dealers sell around the world which us in UK never get to see and if I said I had this limited edition car the UK E30 nerds like us lol would frown on it as we had never heard of it because its something that BMW Gmbh made up because they thought it would sell and it looked nice!
The rest of the world doesn't recognise a sport just a 325 with factory fitted items off of the accessory list.
We know it as a model because it was sold here, can you see what im getting at here?
Not taking anything away from sport owners, ive had two but it's an interesting debate and although I agree with what you are all saying here that the only true sport is a two door that was sold by BMW GB as a sport identifiable by the chassis number.
I could have a European car to the same spec as a UK car but it still wouldn't be a sport and after all BMW is German, made mostly! In MÃachen of course they are aware of a sport for the UK market but it's only a normal 325 speced up by BMW GB.

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:45 am
by Rosc0PColtrane
Lol, so it's gone from not being a model, to a UK only model now!

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 10:13 am
by pacerpete
Why are we having this discussion ? it is common knowledge that 4 doors are at best donor vehicles, if equipped with any tasty morsels. Otherwise, £100 (£50 for chromies) down the frag yard. What is so difficult to understand ? :?

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 11:33 am
by jbh
pacerpete wrote:Why are we having this discussion ? it is common knowledge that 4 doors are at best donor vehicles, if equipped with any tasty morsels. Otherwise, £100 (£50 for chromies) down the frag yard. What is so difficult to understand ? :?
now now pete there good for track cars aswell

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Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:49 pm
by e36boy
dannyboy759 wrote:
The sport is a proper model
A UK model only, the rest of the world never got it!
If the Germans done an E30 which had, say 4 wheel drive, black head lining, sports seats as standard and leather.
Alpina suspension and a tech1 kit and they called it a 325 elite or something would you regard it as a proper model or a German dealer spin off?
There's loads of cars that dealers sell around the world which us in UK never get to see and if I said I had this limited edition car the UK E30 nerds like us lol would frown on it as we had never heard of it because its something that BMW Gmbh made up because they thought it would sell and it looked nice!
The rest of the world doesn't recognise a sport just a 325 with factory fitted items off of the accessory list.
We know it as a model because it was sold here, can you see what im getting at here?
Not taking anything away from sport owners, ive had two but it's an interesting debate and although I agree with what you are all saying here that the only true sport is a two door that was sold by BMW GB as a sport identifiable by the chassis number.
I could have a European car to the same spec as a UK car but it still wouldn't be a sport and after all BMW is German, made mostly! In MÃachen of course they are aware of a sport for the UK market but it's only a normal 325 speced up by BMW GB.
The E30 325i sport, was a proper uk model........end of.
I cant see why you find this so hard to grasp.

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:56 pm
by gooner1
mattster wrote:Did there ever make a 4 door 325 sport or are the one's knockin bout at the minute all home made? :? :?
Only for the Birmingham,Slough and High wycombe market.

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:06 pm
by march109
Simply put-

You would have to be the village idiot from the town of 'tards to think there is a 4 door sport.

End of.

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:30 pm
by jbh
march109 wrote:Simply put-

You would have to be the village idiot from the town of 'tards to think there is a 4 door sport.

End of.
cant agree with that comment any more.. greatly put and straight to the point :wink:

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:49 pm
by dannyboy759
The E30 325i sport, was a proper uk model........end of.
I cant see why you find this so hard to grasp.
Didnt say it wasnt!! infact i said i agree it was!!!!!!!!!!!!
But you ve just siad what i was saying all along it was a uk model.

Re: 4 door sport?

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:43 pm
by Rosc0PColtrane
dannyboy759 wrote:Technically there is no such thing as a sport!
Wasn't it a UK marketing ploy to sell more cars, Just because its got four doors don't mean it's not a sport!
I know what your mean though by the default definition of a "sport" is two door with plastic stuck on the sides, but like has been said you could spec any car up to sport spec.
In Europe for example you get sports to full sport spec, roof lining gear box lsd the lot, two or four door so never say never.
And just to put the cat amongst the pigeons there's is no such model on the EPC so does it really exist!!!!
Id say if its full sport spec lsd all the trimming, it doesnt matter wether its two or four door.