E30 Zone

i was chatting to my mate tonight and as we have always been Ford nuts, but both love bmw's, we were wondering what sort of run for its money would a 325 sport give, say, a sapphire cossie?

both in standard states of tune.

What do you reckon?

Cosworth would win no contest both on 0-60 and top end - but then you would expect it to with approx 30bhp more and probably no real difference in weight.

I still want one but can't see me ever forking out for one.

.....and you try finding a cossie in standard trim - lol

cosworth all day. althought the cosworth and the m3 were similar in performance back in the day the cosworth was probably the better car to have if you were going to do a few little mods. 300bhp could be had with few mods. my mates dad who back in the 80's won the jersey rally 5 times in a row in a mk2 escort bought a brand new saph 4x4 cossie when the came out and he said it was great, but he now owns an e30 m3 and says he wished he had bought the m3 now instead of the cossie as its a much better car to drive. id rather have the m3 aswell.

Sport would get spanked

i dont think standard v standard would give a serious spanking but the cossie would win it . future tuning potential is where the difference will be seen. why not combine them both? e30 wit cossie engine, the best of both worlds with the solid,well built ride of the e30 with the power of the cossie.

fuzzy wrote:i dont think standard v standard would give a serious spanking but the cossie would win it )

2nd that

fuzzy wrote:i dont think standard v standard would give a serious spanking but the cossie would win it . future tuning potential is where the difference will be seen. why not combine them both? e30 wit cossie engine, the best of both worlds with the solid,well built ride of the e30 with the power of the cossie.

and totally un biased too fuzzy eh?

I don't think a Cossi against a 325 sport is really a fair fight.

A Cossi against an M3 would be more like it imo.
And I know which would be the better car there


I think I'd still much prefer to own a 325 sport over a cosworth since the E30 looks so much better and you'll can drive an E30 on any occasion where you might look abit of a tool in a Cosworth in some situations.

Think Fussy finally has a thread where people can't disapprove of his chosen route now

Dave_M3 wrote:I don't think a Cossi against a 325 sport is really a fair fight.

A Cossi against an M3 would be more like it imo.

completely agree. You cannot compare these two cars. Different league altogether.

The cosworth is remarkable car and still very fast even by today's Japanese 300mph 16v twin cam turbo injected crap.

M3 yes so perhaps you may want to edit your heading.

M3 yes so perhaps you may want to edit your heading.

but the result would remain rhe same

hubble wrote: ... even by today's Japanese 300mph 16v twin cam turbo injected crap.

why do people still call Jap cars crap? Clearly they aren't.
Is it just the rhyming-ness of it all?

high performance jap cars are very reliable and fast but let down in the style department sometimes.

fuzzy wrote:high performance jap cars are very reliable and fast but let down in the style department sometimes.

and thats why my mates evo6 has broken more times than my 2.7

Bob_S wrote:

fuzzy wrote:high performance jap cars are very reliable and fast but let down in the style department sometimes.

and thats why my mates evo6 has broken more times than my 2.7

i can only comment on my experience. not everyone elses.

orangecurry wrote:

Christ you still alive

Long time no see, well speak, actually more like read kind of type thing but you get my drift...

fuzzy wrote:

Bob_S wrote:

fuzzy wrote:high performance jap cars are very reliable and fast but let down in the style department sometimes.

and thats why my mates evo6 has broken more times than my 2.7

i can only comment on my experience. not everyone elses.

If it wasnt for you avatar and banner Fuzzy I would never of known your car was Cossie powered

OBs wrote:

fuzzy wrote:

Bob_S wrote: and thats why my mates evo6 has broken more times than my 2.7

i can only comment on my experience. not everyone elses.

If it wasnt for you avatar and banner Fuzzy I would never of known your car was Cossie powered

shhhhhh! dont tell everyone and if it wasnt for your banner i wouldnt know your grandad lives at number 82.

Bob_S wrote:

fuzzy wrote:high performance jap cars are very reliable and fast but let down in the style department sometimes.

and thats why my mates evo6 has broken more times than my 2.7

One persons annecdotes is hardly representative of two whole brands.

OBs wrote:

orangecurry wrote:

Christ you still alive

Long time no see, well speak, actually more like read kind of type thing but you get my drift...

I've been a busy bunny

i love the e30 but if i had a choice of a sport or the sierra cossie it would be the sierra all day long

wullie325i wrote:i love the e30 but if i had a choice of a sport or the sierra cossie it would be the sierra all day long

the cars themselves are cr4p though. i know its an eighties car but the interior feels seventies and just so dated. on that score i side with the e30.

look at it this way whats gonna last longer !!!!!!!! fords rust thru not as well built as the german beasts

e30's are as rusty as fords!

nickstoner wrote:look at it this way whats gonna last longer !!!!!!!! fords rust thru not as well built as the german beasts

E30's rust just as bad if not worse than sierras.

Rosc0PColtrane wrote:e30's are as rusty as fords!

but not as rattly.

e30s aint as rusty as fords look ford stands for
F-FIX
O-OR
R-REPAIR
D_DAILY
lolhmm bmw or a ford bmw anyday

Found on Rubbish Dump

Found on Road Dead

Frightening Old Rusty Deathtraps.


There's loads!

There's plenty of rusty e30's about to match fords in p40 stakes

fuzzy wrote:

wullie325i wrote:i love the e30 but if i had a choice of a sport or the sierra cossie it would be the sierra all day long

the cars themselves are cr4p though. i know its an eighties car but the interior feels seventies and just so dated. on that score i side with the e30.

true the interior and insturments ect are crap but it can be changed just like any other car.

i would love a sierra cosworth in black sitting on its hoop with nice deep dish alloys and a comedy sized big bore exhaust mmmmmmm

council yes but who cares and i am a council sort of fellow so sod it!

nickstoner wrote:e30s aint as rusty as fords look ford stands for
F-FIX
O-OR
R-REPAIR
D_DAILY
lolhmm bmw or a ford bmw anyday

I said E30's can rust as badly as SIERRAS if not worse, not Fords in general.
Sierras are were built in Belgium not in England were they seemed to use water based tin for construction.

I've had many, many Ford's and quite a few E30s now to know where the rust hot spots are on them.

No rusty scuttles or sunroof trays on seirras.

bss325i wrote:

nickstoner wrote:look at it this way whats gonna last longer !!!!!!!! fords rust thru not as well built as the german beasts

E30's rust just as bad if not worse than sierras.

you say that.. but how many Sierra's are actually still left on the road to be rusting compared to e30's..

Jhonno wrote:

bss325i wrote:

nickstoner wrote:look at it this way whats gonna last longer !!!!!!!! fords rust thru not as well built as the german beasts

E30's rust just as bad if not worse than sierras.

you say that.. but how many Sierra's are actually left on the road to rust compared to e30's..

Because sierras other than XR's and RS's are worth 50p where as E30's are worth more. Mechanicals last longer in E30's as well.

Hmmm Sierra cossie V's E30 325i sport.............

I know a guy with a nearly standard E reg 2wd cossie, We had a race last year, I was in my 325i sport............Lets just say i got well and truly spanked.

Cossie has 204bhp standard and E30 325i sport has 171bhp standard, Neither car are still going to be running at the stated power figures but the cossie is still going to be more powerful.

The guy actually wanted to swap his car for mine though, Ive always loved cossies but i couldnt bring myself to go through with the swap.
He still has the cossie coz i saw him in it last week, after not seeing him for ages.

keep the e30 mate

nickstoner wrote:keep the e30 mate

To late..............I sold it last year due to circumstance
Currently debating on what to get next, e30 is an option but im not to convinced.