E30 M3 Log Book

Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:38 am

Was just wondering if any of you E30 M3 owners have the same problem, if it is a problem to begin with.

When i bought my car from independent motors in reading about six years ago, when i recieved my log book it never came with an engine number logged on the log book.

Is this normal with imports.

Reason why i ask is when i was selling my vehicle, some people actually tried to make me feel like some form of criminal, its amazing how eveyone that turned up to buy my car was an E30 M3 Specialist.

Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:41 am

I doubt if I own a single car where the engine number matches up with the V5, TBH!
Send the number and V5C off to Swansea and get it added.

Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:21 pm

Nearly every M3 i have owned has stated "engine number not known " on the V5, i have seen others with variations of the vin listed as the engine number

Nothing to worry about Patrick. The joys of trying to sell a bespoke car !

Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:39 pm

Hello, i just picked up a E34 import from South Africa, and yes that has the engine number on the log book, but i think it's just a case of, if people have filled that box in or not. Thanks

Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:51 pm

your right in thinking that imports dont have the engine number logged.

Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:20 pm

Thanks everyone so far, bri and ucpsale.

Pete and hartgefan i only wish you were around when these potential E30 M3 specialist dreamers turn up and start looking at me like i am Dell Boy

Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:28 pm

one of my m3s has engine number unknown on the log book, the other has it?
who knows??!

Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:35 pm

My sport evo has the correct engine number on the log book, the Evo2 has the same numbers for both VIN and engine numbers on the log book... obviously in reality, this is not the case. The Sport evo is a UK car, where the Evo2 was imported.

Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:41 pm

Any car imported by Munich Legends will 99% of the time have "Not Known" in the engine number box. Only the fear the DVLA wil fuck it up and put the car on a Q reg has stopped me from adding it.

BTW the engine number on my car is fully visable should the question ever arise.

Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:04 pm

Rich_W wrote:Any car imported by Munich Legends will 99% of the time have "Not Known" in the engine number box. Only the fear the DVLA wil **** it up and put the car on a Q reg has stopped me from adding it.

BTW the engine number on my car is fully visable should the question ever arise.

Thanks everyone again for the info.

Rich W this is my one fear at the moment. The guy who is buying my car wants the log book with the engine number on it first even though i have had the conversion done and good info from Karan regarding his conversion and his Log Book.

DVLA except the M5 engine conversion but they want the engine number and as i dont know the history of the engine or even if it has an engine number i am in a panic just incase they want to Q plate my car, which will defo make me

not to mention devalue my car BIG TIME! fingers crossed.

Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:15 pm

An engine conversion alone will not be enough to get your car "Q" plated.

Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:07 am

Don't worry about it - the DVLA don't give a flying feck about the engine number anyway, they only care if you put it up into a more expensive road tax bracket changing it.

Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:32 am

I wouldn't be in any hurry to be telling the DVLA that my car which previously had a 2.3 engine now has a 3.6 engine, Ã‚£25 per day congestion charge, kerr-ching !
Patrick, run that scenario past the victim, you might get off the hook

Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:30 am

pacerpete wrote:I wouldn't be in any hurry to be telling the DVLA that my car which previously had a 2.3 engine now has a 3.6 engine, Ã‚£25 per day congestion charge, kerr-ching !
Patrick, run that scenario past the victim, you might get off the hook

Very true

Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:08 am

I wouldn't worry victim will soon be back when he realises that every other m3 he looks at doesn't have the engine number on the v5 either. If hes that worried about it there are very few available cars for him.

DVLA will not Q plate your car though, as I explained in another post today, since the age and ID of your car is not in dispute the situation will never arise because it has not been radically altered. An engine swap does not count as radically altered.

Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:26 pm

My car doesnt have an engine number because brand new blocks dont come with one!

Having an engine number on your M3 is so last year

Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:47 pm

Well This is the message.below i received back from DVLA, and i hope after this they dont try to Q plate my Car.

"It may be helpful if I explain that if the engine does not have an engine number the V5C can still be returned for amendment. Instead of inputting an engine on the application form you should write 'Not Stated' in the appropriate section."

Will update this thread probably in 14 days once i recieve feedback in the form of a letter or maybe my log book back.

Sun Mar 23, 2008 2:50 pm

Recieved my Log Book yesterday and it is now updated with the M5 Engine (cc) details and the engine number now shows as "NOT STATED" as with my previous engine.

Thanks for your help again now maybe i can get on with selling this thing.

Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:05 pm

This all goes back to how much attention to detail the original importer, purchaser in the EEC paid when they completed the paperwork...simple as that...if you know the details add them and send them in

Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:40 pm

Patm3 wrote:

Recieved my Log Book yesterday and it is now updated with the M5 Engine (cc) details and the engine number now shows as "NOT STATED" as with my previous engine.

Thanks for your help again now maybe i can get on with selling this thing.

Roger will be relieved !

Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:47 pm

pacerpete wrote:
Patm3 wrote:

Recieved my Log Book yesterday and it is now updated with the M5 Engine (cc) details and the engine number now shows as "NOT STATED" as with my previous engine.

Thanks for your help again now maybe i can get on with selling this thing.

Roger will be relieved !

Hush Hush! Wink Wink! and all that :lol:

Sun Mar 23, 2008 3:50 pm

Patm3 wrote:
pacerpete wrote:
Patm3 wrote:

Recieved my Log Book yesterday and it is now updated with the M5 Engine (cc) details and the engine number now shows as "NOT STATED" as with my previous engine.

Thanks for your help again now maybe i can get on with selling this thing.

Roger will be relieved !
Hush Hush! Wink Wink! and all that

He has been posting up pictures of his toerag with 22" khans, i laughed at it and told him it suited him, he thought i was serious !

Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:07 pm

pacerpete wrote:
Patm3 wrote:
pacerpete wrote:
Roger will be relieved !
Hush Hush! Wink Wink! and all that

He has been posting up pictures of his toerag with 22" khans, i laughed at it and told him it suited him, he thought i was serious !

There should be an RS4 Cabrio coming soon also,

Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:11 pm

Patm3 wrote:
pacerpete wrote:
Patm3 wrote: Hush Hush! Wink Wink! and all that

He has been posting up pictures of his toerag with 22" khans, i laughed at it and told him it suited him, he thought i was serious !
There should be an RS4 Cabrio coming soon also,

Yes, i and half the world have heard about his vw cab also

I wonder what the repaynents are on one of them ?

Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:29 pm

mines from independant motor co too and no engine no known the same as yours

Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:27 pm

after all the hassle i went through nearly ten weeks of my log book going to and from dvla, the engine number etc i cant even get hold of the buyer. He has probably lost interest or already bought one. Looks like my car will be going back up again for sale for a third time :lol: