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Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:13 pm

is it harmful in any way for my car to sit idling for say 30 mins?

reason i ask is my current job involves being out all nite and the car is the only place to get warm etc

just wondering how much fuel it uses and if its hurting the enigine in any way.

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yeah the engine cries cos its not being driven!!!!..




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Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:28 pm

ive been told excessive idling causes more damage but that might only be from a cold start.whats your job that requires sitting in your car during the night? a burglar?
what about one of the little electrical heaters you see that plug into the cigarette lighter? or simply a thicker jacket? much cheaper than burning the extra fuel.
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:34 pm

fuzzy wrote: simply a thicker jacket?
or set of long johns :o:
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:38 pm

Cotty wrote:
fuzzy wrote: simply a thicker jacket?
or set of long johns :o:
or instead of sitting shivering get off your 4rse and jog around the car for 5 minutes.saves fuel and helps the environment.
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:40 pm

set of long johns is on its way. :D
fuzzy wrote:ive been told excessive idling causes more damage but that might only be from a cold start.whats your job that requires sitting in your car during the night? a burglar?
am basically guarding a house for 12 hrs :(
as fpr the heater, wont that drain my battery rather quickly :?

other reason i need to start it every now and then (apart from pissing off neighbours :twisted: ) is to clear the screen so i can actually see the house im guarding.

cheers for the comments boys, keep em coming :D
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:48 pm

guarding a house for 12 hours? and they dont let you in?
for that amount of time id go with the thick padded jacket option and it will also make you look much bigger when confronting undesirables.
or a electric heater with a spare battery in the boot.
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:49 pm

other reason i need to start it every now and then (apart from pissing off neighbours :twisted: ) is to clear the screen so i can actually see the house im guarding.


guarding??
you wanna get yourself a nice warm quilt and a guard dog.
you sleep in the car leave the dog tied up outside and wake up when he barks! you can take my dog if u pay him half your wages! winkeye
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:56 pm

house guard hey? are you freelance? lol!


my mk1 golf i had back in 2000-2001 used to have to tickover for 2-3 hours or more at a time 2 or 3 times a week for bout 2 months while i was shagging a fit indian bird i was seeing that winter, out in random peak district car parks in derbyshire! never did that car any harm............ :mad:
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burgler alarm? :P
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:08 pm

all great ideas peeps, very tempted with the doggy,
murran wrote:house guard hey? are you freelance? lol!

my mk1 golf i had back in 2000-2001 used to have to tickover for 2-3 hours or more at a time 2 or 3 times a week for bout 2 months while i was shagging a fit indian bird i was seeing that winter, out in random peak district car parks in derbyshire! never did that car any harm............ Mad
na not freelance, and the house is actually locked and empty. not actually allowed to say more than that believe it or not

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as for the jacket, i already look like the michellin man lol

so basic premis is, it wont hurt the car cos its german :woohoo:
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It wont hurt any car in good condition.
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:12 pm

well she never overheats, it stays dead on about 750rpm, and sounds bloody lovely :D

anyone know how much fuel it will use, im thinking not much :?
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tailoutcharlie wrote:set of long johns is on its way. :D
Get the top and bottoms. People won't know that your wearing them and even if they do, who cares, your warm.

I have spent many a cold winter E30 meet in a windy McD's car park and toasty warm all night
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just wish i had a touring :(
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tailoutcharlie wrote:well she never overheats, it stays dead on about 750rpm, and sounds bloody lovely :D

anyone know how much fuel it will use, im thinking not much :?
3 hours idling in my golf used to use half a tank, that was a 1500 ohc engine with a webber replacement carb........ as for an e30 i dont know........
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well my e30's used to abuse winkeye
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Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:28 pm

Won't do any harm whatsoever, unless you have a YB, it might break down :)

Not sure about fuel, put it in your costs and get it back :)
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^^^rolf

nice sig btw max 8)
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mmmmmm, nice sig pic maxfield........... congrats on the lottery win btw! :roll:
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murran wrote:mmmmmm, nice sig pic maxfield........... congrats on the lottery win btw! :roll:
What's that suppose to mean? :?
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This is what you need mate

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Used one last week, down to -5 and was still toastie

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tailoutcharlie wrote:just wish i had a touring :(
Lots more glass, bigger cabin, harder to keep warm

But you can sleep in it

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maxfield wrote:
murran wrote:mmmmmm, nice sig pic maxfield........... congrats on the lottery win btw! :roll:
What's that suppose to mean? :?
I think he means that sig pics are supposed to be of your own car, I assume, im not sure
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Cotty wrote:
maxfield wrote:
murran wrote:mmmmmm, nice sig pic maxfield........... congrats on the lottery win btw! :roll:
What's that suppose to mean? :?
I think he means that sig pics are supposed to be of your own car, I assume, im not sure
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So, I'm the only one with a picture that's not my own car on the forum? :?
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wasnt really directed at you, just light hearted banter........... no need to take it seriously.
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maxfield wrote:So, I'm the only one with a picture that's not my own car on the forum? :?
No your not, but I bet your car polished up with a photoshopped background would look cool as a sig pic :D
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maxfield wrote:So, I'm the only one with a picture that's not my own car on the forum? :?
No your not, but I bet your car polished up with a photoshopped background would look cool as a sig pic :D
well mines covered in welsh mud, grass, you can hardly see it for tyre smoke, its out of focus and taken from half a mile away...........
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Makes a good sig picture.

Sorry, just had a bad day that's all.

If I can be bothered to play around with Photoshop I'll see what I can come up with.
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Couldn't you do like Clarkson with the S class merc and stick a wood burning stove in there? Nice and toasty and you can warm some nosh up too! If you are supposed to be covert, the smoke from the chimney might be a give-away though :?
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At idle your engine isn't efficient, you're won't necessarily getting a clean burn and possible causing/increasing carbon build up and valve seat burn.

If starting up from cold and leaving idleling, the engine will warm up slowly. Extra fuel on cold start maps can cause bore wash, and of course oil won't be moving round the engine as freely or providing it's best lubricating properties as cold.

Load on various engine components is actual higher at idle than higher RPMs at small throttle openings, this again can contribute to engine wear.

Also oil pressure is lower at idle than higher RPM, this again won't help oil circulation, lubrication and the oil to get to an efficient operating temp.

I never let a cold engine sit at idle to warm up in the UK climate - if perhaps we got down to serious extremes I would at least let the engine get some heat before risking any revs, however we don't.

Gentle driving, holding up to say 2.5k revs on light throttle openings is a far kinder way to drive a cold engine.
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you will get carbon buildup but as long as it gets an italian tune up now and again it shouldnt be much of a problem, maybe some slightly thicker oil to improve low speed oil presure?
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Well over 270k on mine. And I never get in turn on and drive, I have always let it get to running temp first.
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