E30 Zone

Has anyone used these on their e30, if so which ones to go for and do they actually make any difference. Where to get them from...

check out the motorsport section on here there is some good info in there dude

For road use, they must have an overall outside sheath on top of the stainless braid.

Brianmoooore wrote:For road use, they must have an overall outside sheath on top of the stainless braid.

I have a set of Goodridge on my 'other' german car, and they've not got anything over/protecting the braided metal, and they've got through every MOT for the past 10 years.

ETA They have got very short sheaths at each end, over the connectors.

orangecurry wrote:

Brianmoooore wrote:For road use, they must have an overall outside sheath on top of the stainless braid.

I have a set of Goodridge on my 'other' german car, and they've not got anything over/protecting the braided metal, and they've got through every MOT for the past 10 years.

ETA They have got very short sheaths at each end, over the connectors.

A MOT only covers a very limited and specific range of things. Without the sheaths it doesn't meet the 'construction and use' (or whatever they're called these days).
The "chickens would come home to roost", following a serious accident.

I've had Goodridge on my last 2 e30's. Well worth paying extra for the stainless fittings if you intend keeping the car. The Goodridge hoses have the oversheath.

They improve feel and give a firmer pedal over the old stock rubber pipes.

Make sure you get the right kit though, the fitment list is wrong. If you have rear discs you'll need the 6 line kit regardless of whether it has ABS or not. Rear drums need the 4 line kit.

Cheers,

Iain T

Brianmoooore wrote:

orangecurry wrote:

Brianmoooore wrote:For road use, they must have an overall outside sheath on top of the stainless braid.

I have a set of Goodridge on my 'other' german car, and they've not got anything over/protecting the braided metal, and they've got through every MOT for the past 10 years.

ETA They have got very short sheaths at each end, over the connectors.

A MOT only covers a very limited and specific range of things. Without the sheaths it doesn't meet the 'construction and use' (or whatever they're called these days).
The "chickens would come home to roost", following a serious accident.

Not that I doubt your information, but I would be interested in reading more - do you have a link or clue as to where I might begin to search?

Ta

For road use, they must have an overall outside sheath on top of the stainless braid.

Brianmooore have you got pics or more info on what you mean by this, as im slightly confused as to what bit you mean.

So i would need the 6 hose kit, not the 4, and would i need to buy the bits that brianmoore is talking about, extra if so what is the exact name for them...

I have some new ones here should anyone be interested

Don't have a link, but search through the kit car forums, ans SVA stuff.
It's to do with the braid rubbing against things and then failing catastrophically with no warning.

Spadge which ones you got, any pics, how much you after for them.

just picked up a set of goodridge (6 line) they have a clear plastic sheath over the braiding... also picked up the clutch line too going on in the new year so hopefully a nice improvement

Fivepint, how much you pay for yours out of interest, did you have to buy the plastic sheath seperately or did they come with it...

Brianmoooore wrote:Don't have a link, but search through the kit car forums, ans SVA stuff.
It's to do with the braid rubbing against things and then failing catastrophically with no warning.

Thanks.

I thought the braid simply stops the rubber hose within from expanding, therefore you have the same rubber hose anyway (which could fail catastrophically in any case)

SHAKEELE30 wrote:Spadge which ones you got, any pics, how much you after for them.

Black Diamond mate ref no. HK075
I only have 4 of the 6 lines that came in the packet as 2 had been fitted to the car already.
I think they cost about 60 quid but i'm open to an offer for these.

orangecurry wrote:I thought the braid simply stops the rubber hose within from expanding, therefore you have the same rubber hose anyway (which could fail catastrophically in any case)

I thought the 'pipe' in braided hoses was PTFE.
Ordinary rubber brake hose tend to swell and give a long brake pedal for a while before they fail completely.

Brianmoooore wrote:Don't have a link, but search through the kit car forums, ans SVA stuff.
It's to do with the braid rubbing against things and then failing catastrophically with no warning.

True apparently - I have a car which has braided hoses as standard. Years ago I queried the outer sheath once when replacing them with OEM items and got the same answer.

£95 for 6 line kit and clutch line including delivery to ireland which was about £15 for Goodridge, not the cheapest but i need em quick... jw racing on ebay, did see a cheaper 'aeroquip' set but i wanted a clutch line too, think the aeroquip was matt or mattys racing on ebay too and not sure if it had pastic sheathy for road use


these seem to have the plastic sheath fitted as standard where as a few years back I remeber having to cover a set with a plastic spiral thingy

I thought that the braided lines just had to be secured to the strut housing with a rubber bung so it didn't rub.

Call these guys its all they do...

http://www.performancebraking.com/

Should be around £20 for a pair.

Dont scrimp on the pads you use though, braded lines are only a small percentage of the overall braking setup, pad material is extreamly important as is decent fresh fluid.

Goodridge have many suppliers and you can choose your standard of line, colour and construction of ends all affects price and can get the kits for E30 made up already and the clutch hose...some good suppliers out there who will give discounts...

I got the braided hoses for my 323i and it feels really great when u are going downhille coz with rubber hose, your brakes would be spongy after it gets hot. With steel braided hose, it's firm all the way, no more sponginess. That's the biggest different i felt after installing.

Would be getting ferodo brake pads later on, anyone tried that? Sorry for going off topic..

loved Ferrodo DS2500's on previous cars... but v expensive, also had pagid blues, excellent but very dusty... going mintex extreme this time to see what happens

You have to be careful with them. On the Fiat Coupe, after-market Goodridge kits were responsible for a series of brake failures. I think it was something to do with what looked like safe routing actually causing rubbing under harsh suspension loads. Whether that was it or not, they experienced what Brian is talking about - total failure without warning. There were no deaths but only due to extreme luck.
I'm sure they can be safe and beneficial when designed/installed correctly but you should definitely check them regularly if you fit them.

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