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Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:34 pm**

I am starting a Hartge Register, all models and variants are welcome.

Need the following:

Model, description, location (roughly), registration (optional), any other useful information.

Bring them on !!!

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:05 pm**

one hartge wannabe, full bodykit, wheels, strut brace and steering wheel

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:16 pm**

Is Hartge wanabes alright?

As iv got wheels, h2.7 engine, gear knob and steering wheel??

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:05 pm**

yep, post up some pics

Posted: **Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:55 pm**

spook wrote:one hartge wannabe, full bodykit, wheels, strut brace and steering wheel

Looking sweet brother

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:11 am**

Kevin Bird holds the official Hartge register for the UK Iain, he has records going back to day 1 of Birds although not from the other company who briefly had the franchise, I'm sure he could provide you full details (minus personal data) of all the variants he has done, would be interesting to see how many are unaccounted for. Thats full conversions, not kits that were sold on. Would seem to be a good starting point and would help you validate real cars from unnoficial cars like Spooks (although his car looks great!, love those headlights especially)

Cheers,

Tim

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:26 am**

I would be very interested to see Kevin Birds register

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:31 am**

bloom_meister wrote:Kevin Bird holds the official Hartge register for the UK Iain, he has records going back to day 1 of Birds although not from the other company who briefly had the franchise, I'm sure he could provide you full details (minus personal data) of all the variants he has done, would be interesting to see how many are unaccounted for. Thats full conversions, not kits that were sold on. Would seem to be a good starting point and would help you validate real cars from unnoficial cars like Spooks (although his car looks great!, love those headlights especially)

Cheers,

Tim

I have Kevin Birds support with the register I am compiling.

The Birds register is not comprehensive and by building a register will hopefully bring in the overseas models as well which Birds do not hold.

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:32 am**

Hartge wannabees will be put in a separate section.

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:36 am**

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:10 am**

HartgeH27 wrote:Hartge wannabees will be put in a separate section.

whats classed as a wanna be?

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:37 am**

Original Hartge H23 clocking on!

All the Hartge goodies.

Located in Australia.

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:20 pm**

Demlotcrew wrote:
HartgeH27 wrote:Hartge wannabees will be put in a separate section.

whats classed as a wanna be?

Fair call Mr A.

Non factory or non-concessionaire built cars will be put into a separate section.

Factory built or officially built concessionaire cars will be placed into the 'original build' section with as much detail as possible.

HTH

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:10 pm**

can i be part of the crew!? i only have hartge sideskirts

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:14 pm**

Iain

Does mine qualify

You know it is a Hartge BUT no records currently and Birds cant confirm!!!

Maybe we can find some info at some point...but she is an old girl and plan to restore as it would be a shame to track her

Cheers

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:27 pm**

cabrio wrote:Iain

Does mine qualify

You know it is a Hartge BUT no records currently and Birds cant confirm!!!

Maybe we can find some info at some point...but she is an old girl and plan to restore as it would be a shame to track her

Cheers

Defo Neil, one of the ongoing mysteries your one !!

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:04 pm**

What about my current project? Kevin Bird does have a record of the car...

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:18 pm**

Iain

I abandoned the idea to update the induction system as when dismantled the inlet it has been ported out so putting it all back together but want to get it running better with all those vacume pipes...going to get the floor welded and replace some bits rather than break it...thought as it was so old was worth keeping as will be 25 years old soon...it has interest value if not money value

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:03 pm**

how biased Iain, for a company thats only a "tuner"

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:37 pm**

Iain,

Any luck with those questions mate?

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:21 pm**

Simon13 wrote:how biased Iain, for a company thats only a "tuner"

Yes old chap but what a tuner..........no need to go green around the gills ........keep saving and you can have one, one day !!!!

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:25 pm**

A bit like saying 'RUF' ony tune Porsches

Tim

Posted: **Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:57 pm**

Simon13 wrote:how biased Iain, for a company thats only a "tuner"

Oh God, not that Alpina 'manufacturer' bollox! Manufacturer my arse, they don't manufacture anything but they do nicely modify a BMW. But to be fair Hartge do a more interesting job with less compromises. Well, with the E30 anyway.

Posted: **Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:03 pm**

cabrio wrote:Iain

I abandoned the idea to update the induction system as when dismantled the inlet it has been ported out so putting it all back together but want to get it running better with all those vacume pipes...going to get the floor welded and replace some bits rather than break it...thought as it was so old was worth keeping as will be 25 years old soon...it has interest value if not money value

Think it will be both of good interest and value, the true identity will surely be revealed one day !!

Posted: **Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:40 pm**

The file of paperwork and reciepts hopefully will turn up one day...investigations show they went missing from the car in the last 7 years so who knows...but apparently a Ã‚£6k invoice in 1984

Posted: **Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:44 pm**

good stuff,im in.

HARTGE H28.
white 2 door
imported from japan 2007
323i based 1985
m30 2.8 207 bhp
finned cam cover
manifold and exhaust
hartge mats
steering wheel
speedo
strutbrace
adjustable arb
front spoiler
rear spoiler
skirts,side and rear
dash pod
full striping and badges
single wiper
chassis plaque (in engine bay)
40k miles
but unbelievably no LSD!!!

can we arrange a meet some time as i would like to see the other cars and meet up with the owners.

Posted: **Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:33 pm**

Simon wrote:What about my current project? Kevin Bird does have a record of the car...

Posted: **Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:21 pm**

Just a suggestion, but as there are bound to be lots of Alpina owners out there (and lots of AC fans too), how about a new section dedicated to those variants?

Cheers

Tim

Posted: **Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:35 pm**

Please keep on topic guys - thanks.

Posted: **Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:48 am**

Hmm it was on topic !

I forgot to add Hartge.

What i was trying, badly, to say, is that it would be cool to have a Hartge/Alpina/AC section of the board where the anal .(lysts) among us could discuss these variants, eg your original topic iain, to our hearts content without having to put stickies in the general section. Dont get me wrong, I love the idea but maybe best in its own place?

Just my 2cp

Tim

ps. that the only H28 in the country?

Posted: **Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:44 am**

Maybe but what I am trying to achieve is a Hartge register plain and simple.

Your thoughts are good but maybe for discussion in general chat, otherwise this thread will go way off topic if we start discussing other marques.

To my knowledge that is the only exported/concession built import in the country.

Posted: **Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:10 pm**

hartgefan wrote:good stuff,im in.

HARTGE H28.
white 2 door
imported from japan 2007
323i based 1985
m30 2.8 207 bhp
finned cam cover
manifold and exhaust
hartge mats
steering wheel
speedo
strutbrace
adjustable arb
front spoiler
rear spoiler
skirts,side and rear
dash pod
full striping and badges
single wiper
chassis plaque (in engine bay)
40k miles
but unbelievably no LSD!!!

Now that sounds stunning.... C'mon we need pics!!

Posted: **Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:24 pm**

I've got the October 1996 issue of Performance Car magazine featuring a head to head test of a Hartge H3 converted by Birds (C173 WLB) and an E36 M3 Evo.

Problem is I haven't got a flat-bed scanner

I could photograph the relevant pages if anyone's interested?

Posted: **Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:42 pm**

hartgefan wrote:good stuff,im in.

HARTGE H28.
white 2 door
imported from japan 2007
323i based 1985
m30 2.8 207 bhp
finned cam cover
manifold and exhaust
hartge mats
steering wheel
speedo
strutbrace
adjustable arb
front spoiler
rear spoiler
skirts,side and rear
dash pod
full striping and badges
single wiper
chassis plaque (in engine bay)
40k miles
but unbelievably no LSD!!!

can we arrange a meet some time as i would like to see the other cars and meet up with the owners.

Hey is your car the automatic one?

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:13 am**

SidewaysScouser wrote:I've got the October 1996 issue of Performance Car magazine featuring a head to head test of a Hartge H3 converted by Birds (C173 WLB) and an E36 M3 Evo.

Problem is I haven't got a flat-bed scanner

I could photograph the relevant pages if anyone's interested?

All contributions gratefully received please !!!

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