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lowering troubles???

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:21 am
by Emm3
i've just had ventura 60mm springs and bilstein shocks fitted to my i.s. Fitted my borbet b 9x16's and it looks horrid. the car sits fine on the rear but the fronts omg theres like a 2inch gap between the wheel and the arch???? will it bed in and by how much. i was even thinking of cutting the springs just to get it lower

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:23 am
by Dan318-is
The springs need to settle. Just forget about it and drive normally, they will settle in in due course.

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:58 am
by Emm3
Could it be that the car has an anti roll bar which is adding the resistence and not letting it go lower??

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:08 am
by saqi
give it time to settle in and should drop some more, just out of interest did you have to roll the archs?

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:52 am
by StuBeeDoo
Emm3 wrote:the car sits fine on the rear but the fronts omg theres like a 2inch gap between the wheel and the arch????
Assuming the springs are new, take it to the supplier and ask their advice. I can't see one end will settle more than the other, sounds more like an incorrectly packed kit to me. Don't even think about cutting the springs. :clin: If they are second-hand, put it down to experience, bin them, and buy a decent set.
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't rate Ventura springs. I put some on my Touring, drove it 10 miles and hated it so much I put the MTech ones straight back on.
Cheap, gash, tat IMHO.

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:00 am
by toby
It will drop more in time. Give it 500 miles, then get the front tracking reset also as this is good practice after suspension work. I hope you have shortened shock absorbers to cope with a 60mm drop.

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:13 pm
by snoops
I have noticed that all cars weith a 60mm drop and 16" Borbets have a gap at the fron, probably because they are onle 16"

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:02 pm
by Emm3
I've done over 1400 miles and the car has still not sat much lower, looking for another pair of front springs 60mm, any recomended brand?

It was a bit of a nightmare buying springs for the car in the first place most place would say yes it will lower 60mm and then when i mentioned its an i.s the response would be like "oh they are 15mm lower as standard so if you bought 60mm springs off us it would only lower the car 45mm blah blah" and theres me thinking well do i need 75mm spring or somthing?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:15 pm
by Dan320is
I don't rate ventura springs, get some Jamex springs. I ran them on my IS before I fitted a kit. And they were fine for the price.
Have a look at http://www.motorsportworld.co.uk/. I've used these guys for all of my E30's suspension, the price and service is brilliant.

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:15 pm
by benji471
Iv just fitted a set of H&R springs to my SE and i can highly recommend them, meant to be a -35mm drop but even straight away before they have settled it appears to be more than the jamex kit that was on which i was led to believe it was a 40-30 split. But those coupled with Bilstein shocks really are worth the money.

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:19 pm
by DHFiS
Are these springs definately for a 4 cyl car?

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:23 pm
by Dan320is
DHFiS wrote:Are these springs definately for a 4 cyl car?
I was just having that thought mate.

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:39 pm
by mc_hawkings24
tbh ventura springs are rubbish. I had a bilstein setup with them and it was awful, i would ditch them for another make before you hate your car. As said are those prings for the right engine? i had some standard somthing on the front of mine when i got it and i could put my head in the arch i'm thinking 325 springs were on my 4cyl.

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:41 pm
by Emm3
Quite like the Weitec ones off that site, they do 60mm but it don't say i.s just 4 or 6 cyl?

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:56 pm
by mc_hawkings24
Theres also this site compare prices, best to ring up these sites tbh
http://www.venommotorsport.com/

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:59 pm
by DanThe
Cut the springs bruv :wink:

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:05 pm
by mc_hawkings24
i cut a coil off my IS springs aswell :D

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:28 pm
by Emm3
And then on MOT when the car is on the ramp the spring will loosly sit in situ
Fail :!:

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:31 pm
by mc_hawkings24
not on my springs as there standard and rather long so perfectly fine. Its lowered springs you need to watch besides if you put lowered springs on standard shocks it will do the same.

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:57 pm
by TheHeap
DanThe wrote:Cut the springs bruv :wink:
chuck the springs and cruise with just the shocks apparently they're all doing it now 8O

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 9:46 pm
by DanThe
Emm3 wrote:And then on MOT when the car is on the ramp the spring will loosly sit in situ
Fail :!:
B6 dampers, problem solved :)

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:45 am
by Emm3
I've got Bilstein Shocks just the standard Gas ones, can you tell me if shortened shocks is a must with 60mm springs? i don't want to buy another pair of springs and have the same problem i did last time on the mot, the spring was loose.

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:02 am
by Dezzy
If you don't have shortened shocks the standard height ones won't last as they are permanently fully compressed. Defos a must to have shortened shocks with 60mm springs

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:20 pm
by Emm3
I bought the lowering kit from BM town, surly they would know this? if the shockers were fully compressed they would bottom out and the ride would be crap which mine isnt?

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:49 pm
by Dezzy
Yes but the shocks are just off the bottom of there travel for long periods (all the timein your case). They won't last at all. Anybody will sell you 60mm springs, that's not a lowering kit it's just springs. I had the same on a 325 I bought like it. It was fine for about a month just became very bouncey. No rebound because shocks were Fu*ked. This my experiance anyway

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:09 am
by Emm3
Still not low enough and this is really pi55in me off. Bought brand new 60mm fk springs for a 318 thinking the little extra weight from the m42 compared to the normal 318 will help. Still got a mahoosive gap between wheel and arch. The only thing i can think of is the i.s comes with arb which may be restricting the drop (can they???) from what i know the normal 318 doesn't come with arbs. Also i've been told on some cars its worth removing with lowered suspension, again plase confirm this?

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:46 pm
by kniterider

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:06 pm
by town325i
If you go to low at the front the tyres will catch the arch and buldge the wing when turning take some pictures and out of interest what size tyres are you running on the front

Re: lowering troubles???

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:39 pm
by Emm3
9" rims with a 205/40/16 i dont want mm gap but nearly 2" is waaaay too muchas