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touring engine upgrade to 3.5 help!!
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:15 pm
by phill
hi, i want to go from a 325 to a 335, whats involved?
is it a straight change over or do i have to change the wiring loom? i guess the ECI will need changing and engine mounts. also does anyone know who can do the job?
http://img183.echo.cx/img183/3743/touringsilver6ni.jpg
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:19 pm
by Jhonno
dude - remove the pic from your Avatar - its about 50times to big!!
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:20 pm
by johnono
summin weird goin on here
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:22 pm
by Moofles
oh my fucking god jesus, now that's an avatar!
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:23 pm
by Simon13
i want those rims though, fav colour too, with kit, in odd ball touring. Nice car
2.5 Turbo!
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:24 pm
by Jhonno
Moofles wrote:oh my fudge god jesus, now that's an avatar!

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:25 pm
by Davenotouring
Phill...
Best way is probably to buy a donor car. An e34 535i.
You will need in addition an
E30 M3 Propshaft
Custom Mounts (see Group buy - Karan is having some made)
E28 Radiator
Electric Fan
Few other bits - Can't remember!
I'm doing this conversion too.
We will have twins!

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:28 pm
by phill
removed pic....
its gonna take time to locate all parts but i am in no rush. do your first dave and i will see. may take my car to Germany and let the boys up there do it for me. you know the Germans dont mess around.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:48 pm
by rare
I cant really help phill, (did I just sell you an mtech2 kit?

) But hot damn thats one sweet looking tourer! It looks the nuts!!
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:49 pm
by Davenotouring
No fcuking about there then Phill.
I'll be the guinea pig!
If you taking it to Germany, get an E39 M5 engine put in!

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:01 am
by Danstable
Phil & Dave......I hate you I hate you I hate you!!! Your Tourings look like mine should, unfortunately mine has no M-Tech kit, poor paint, shagged bushes, no LSD (got one but not yet fitted), and to top it all I can't even get in mine!
One day I'll buy a house with a drive/garage, get myself a cheap run about and drop a beefier engine in whilst sorting out all the niggly problems. Then I'll re-mortgage the house and get a bare metal respray done.
Well I can dream...
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:07 am
by phill
rare sorry dont know your name. yeh you sold me a m-tec kit. lovely kit waiting to go on a e30 cab and on top of that i have a glass hardtop for it. Geniune. dont hate me dunstable
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:09 am
by phill
dave, M5 engine then..Mmm you got me thinking m8. thats a big mod
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:12 am
by Andy335Touring
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:16 am
by phill
andy, who done your 3.5 mod?
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:17 am
by Toby_Unna
if he gets it built in germany maybe his will last longer than ours did Andy
is your head ready yet? i take it the 'new' short engine is all ready to build up when the head is ready!
not bothered to get the sump off mine yet. enjoying my mr2 too much

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:24 am
by Andy335Touring
phill wrote:andy, who done your 3.5 mod?
A garage by me did the engine swap then i sorted the electrics,cooling,gear linkage,etc.
Toby,the head is comming tomorrow !
This week end i'm stripping the short engine and changing ALL the gaskets and oil seals,bloody garage can't fit me in till a week on Tuesday
Oh and i'm rebuilding the head this week end as well.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:28 am
by Toby_Unna
still welcome to that hoist if you they mess you about andy!
although i would have to strap it to the top of the mr2 to get it to notts!
must do all gaskets and seals, my first engine and box pissed oil from everywhere! much easier when it's out of the car!
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:34 am
by Andy335Touring
BTW did you get my email Re crank nut and vibration damper ?
I think i'm going to have to buy a hub puller to get the vibration damper hub off,did you take yours off on your old E28 M30 that you stripped ?
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:42 am
by Toby_Unna
yep got the mail
mine bloody fell off, that was the whole problem! it had got loose somehow and chewed up the woodruff key that locks it to the crank, i was lucky not do have damaged the end of the crank...
can you maybe lever between the front crankcase and the pulley? as it shouldn't be jammed on all that much.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:47 am
by Andy335Touring
On my old engine i've tried levering it off with two big screw drivers and giving it a hit with a hamer,but i don't want to be brutal with my new bottom end.
Which engine did your damper fall off ? The currant one ?
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:03 am
by Toby_Unna
nah the first one. everything on that engine was buggered!
shouldn't be too worried about using a bit of force, crankshafts are very very strong! maybe use a blowtorch to heat the hub up a bit? if you're doing the seals anyway.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:41 pm
by Nelly
Phill, Karan is dropping an M5 lump into an E30 at the moment - any thing you need to know he'll be able to tell you.Does mean some modding with a ball pin hammer on the transmisson tunnell and the removal of the sound proffing in the tunnel as well, a different thermo housing is also required as well as uprated front suspention(can't remember what Karan is using?).Don't be put of by it all as it would be cool as fook when done, There was a link to a German 335i sight but for the life of me i can't remember it!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 11:28 pm
by Jos
http://www.e30.de/335i/00.htm
Also if you can read German:
http://www.e30.de/m335i.htm
http://tobyunna.hollosite.com/main_bmw.htm
Couple for ya
Toby has done, Andy has done, I am doing M30, Dave is doing M30, Karan is doing the s38, Glenn is doing a V8 M5 mod(nutter...)
Plenty of knowledge kicking about here too

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:33 am
by Toby_Unna
Jos wrote:Toby has done, Andy has done, I am doing M30, Dave is doing M30,
Toby and Andy have slipped back to the 'doing' bit at the moment
probably the only 2 m30b35 failures in the whole world ever!
Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:15 am
by e30mpowerd
hey phill is this your car awesome mate trully a piece of art

Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 11:14 pm
by phill
yep my car. dont drive it really. thanks Phill