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320 vs 318is

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:06 pm
by uncle_festa
i got my f reg 320 last year and i love it to peices, its such a good car to run,

how ever i just got my other car on the road so i need something more economical,

is a 318is about the same kind of performance and what sort of mpg do they do. . realy dont want to get rid of my 320 as i love the sound :(

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:08 pm
by gra325i
used to have a 320i..now ive got a 325i sport and the mrs has a 318is...my 320 used as much fuel as my sport does and was no where near as quick as the "318Is" is but like you said...that straight 6 growl is georgeous and worth the extra petrol.....imho winkeye

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:35 am
by ed325i
The 318is is a faster then the 320 but only a bit more economical.
Lighter on the front end to so should handle better to.

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:02 am
by pacerpete
I am not a huge fan of a 318is as an ownership proposition BUT they are the most economical E30 by far, 30 mpg no problem, motorway driving within the confines of the law can see nearly 40 mpg !. Alas a 320 owner can only dream of these figures, unless its a 'lightweight' scotch spec touring ! :)
At this stage unless you have a decent budget, buy the best condition /best spec car you can find. I would rather a really clean nice spec 320 than a rattly rusty tired iS.

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:03 am
by iDreamBeemer
318iS will also be cheaper to insure than 320....have to agree with you on the sound but as an overall package the iS is better....but I am also biased!

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:08 am
by jaistanley
I have had a 318is and recently swapped the engine to a 2.5 M20. Whilst I love the growl, teh iS handled so well and was such a sweet engine. I'd reccomend the iS EVERY time over the 320. Plus you get all of the sport goodies: black headlining, sports wheel/seats etc etc.

I love the iS. Watch out for timing chain rattles at 3k rpm though. Easy enough to fix but why buy one you have to fix?

Jai

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:07 pm
by E30Dale
i get about 35mpg in my 318iS :) in my opinion the 318IS is a cracking car due to the sport extra's and the M42 engine winkeye but i must say cant beat the sound of a six pot engine! :cool:

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:11 pm
by e30bmlover
i get 270 - 280 miles to a tank driveing around norwich, on a long run, i got to wales on just under half a tank. not bad for a ''thirsty'' b20. real bmw's have 6 cylinders(s14 excluded)

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:45 pm
by uncle_festa
cheers for the info guys, im gona have a little look at a 318is closer at the next bmw show, maybe take one for a test drive when i see one in one of my local car dealers but i think its the way im going to go, love the e30 to much to change for another car. :D

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:36 pm
by kieron
i have a 320 and when im driving around like we are meant to the mpg gauge regularly shows around 30 mpg.

I can put it in fifth and drive as slow as about 20 if i want to, although obviously there isnt very good acceleration at that point. in my opinion the 320 does not seem like an un-economical car at all. quite good in fact.

I am planning on doing a 400 mile each way journey to scotland in august and dont think it will be bad at all. I did the same trip last year in a 1 litre mini and spent about £60 on petrol each way.

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:51 pm
by uncle_festa
yeah a mini is my other car and even tho its a 1380 stage 4 trackday engine its still doing about the same if not better than the bmw mpg. the 320 isnt terible but im just after something better

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:41 pm
by jibowski
I've got both and i can say the 318is is a lot better in my opinion, the m42 is a really sweet little engine, revvy tunable and econonical if your light footed, it has all the suspension mods and brakes as standard 325i that my 320i has had a lot of money spent on it to replicate, i'd love to have an alpina which must be bloody awesome but more as a muscle car i reckon than an m3

and the lighter front results in a lot more evenly balanced chuckable car without all that extra weight right at the nose

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:44 pm
by jibowski
gotta say if i'm light footed in my 320i though its not too bad and you have so much torque you dony need to rev it, often get high 20s to 30 on a run

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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:17 am
by gra325i
kieron wrote:i have a 320 and when im driving around like we are meant to the mpg gauge regularly shows around 30 mpg.

I can put it in fifth and drive as slow as about 20 if i want to, although obviously there isnt very good acceleration at that point. in my opinion the 320 does not seem like an un-economical car at all. quite good in fact.

I am planning on doing a 400 mile each way journey to scotland in august and dont think it will be bad at all. I did the same trip last year in a 1 litre mini and spent about £60 on petrol each way.
why?..you comin to the callender show? 25 e30s in 1 place is gonna be :cool:

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:45 am
by Dan318-is
e30bmlover wrote:i get 270 - 280 miles to a tank driveing around norwich, on a long run, i got to wales on just under half a tank. not bad for a ''thirsty'' b20. real bmw's have 6 cylinders(s14 excluded)
I got 370 miles to a tank out of my 318is on the way to france against the wind too! 8) Its the only time i have ever cared about economy but it shows the difference those two cylinders make.

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:14 am
by jaistanley
I was getting 270 out of a tank on ave with the 318is, now getting 240-250 with the 2.5. Same car otherwise (including the 4.1 diff).

Jai

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:08 am
by E30Mark
In my old 318iS it used to average 37mpg... i managed to get 420miles to the tank - only once! If you drive like petrol is rationed.. then you can get 40mpg from the old girl. But it will obviously depend where you live (hills etc) how you drive (18 or 80 year old) and obviously how well tuned the engine is. I had a 2nd 318iS that although identical to my first, never retuned as good a mpg. :?

The chice is yours, economy or sound :twisted:

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:02 pm
by Andyboy
I don't go along with all the '318iS' are a nightmare stuff. Yes, the timing chains can let go but when a good used engine is £200, it's not the end of the world. M42 chains aren't that bad a job to do and it's a toss up between doing the chain or just driving it and fixing it if it does go. I've seen E36 318iS Coupes with 200k and the first chain so a lot of is is Munich Leg Ends syndrome.
The 320i is a nice smooth thing but the iS is a bit special.

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:06 pm
by iDreamBeemer
The 320i is a nice smooth thing but the iS is a bit special
Special......? Is that as in :mad: :hammer: winkeye

Re: 320 vs 318is

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:12 pm
by e30bmlover
iDreamBeemer wrote:
The 320i is a nice smooth thing but the iS is a bit special
Special......? Is that as in :mad: :hammer: winkeye
no, no, as in rimedial.

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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:46 pm
by kieron
gra325i wrote: why?..you comin to the callender show? 25 e30s in 1 place is gonna be :cool:
no, im pretty new to the e30 scene, dont know what that show is.

Im having a relaxing week away, my girlfriends grandma owns a cottage near the mull of kintyre, plus it was a great driving for ages in one go especially on those country roads a little after glasgow. end of hi-jack.

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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:49 am
by adit
here,here! ive had a few beemers but only recently bought an is. what a luvly little car, quick,light,economical, well impressed! not too bothered about the sound, ill leave that for the saxo/corsa boys outside mcdonalds! oh dear, suddenly i feel old!

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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:49 am
by tailoutcharlie
ill leave that for the saxo/corsa boys outside mcdonalds! oh dear, suddenly i feel old!
saxo's and corsa's have shi**y little fourpots, i do not place them in the same league as a M20 :evil:

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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:08 am
by gra325i
same league?...not even the same sport mate winkeye

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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:42 pm
by BadDave
kieron wrote:
gra325i wrote: why?..you comin to the callender show? 25 e30s in 1 place is gonna be :cool:
No

Im having a relaxing week away,plus it was a great driving for ages in one go especially on those country roads a little after glasgow. end of hi-jack.
Sounds like our proposed meet at Callander winkeye