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Ok, i have a brake fluid and master cylinder change coming up and i am thinking of switching to braided brake hoses.

Has anyone fitted these an noticed a difference?
My current brake lines are fine and i don't want to be wasting my money for little or no benefit.

Seems to be 2 schools of thought,

a. they make the brakes firmer and slightly better.
b. there not worth bothering with unless you current ones are fecked.

Discuss

no noticable difference, if i was you i would just wait till they need doing then do em. the major plus side is that you wouldnt need to replace them again for a very very long time

I was reading a bit on brakes in a kit car mag and they where saying they make a difference.

not worth it unless your old ones are showing signs that theyre on the way out, or are soft and spongey.

if / when you do get some, pay the little bit extra for a set with stainless fittings too. you'll be very gratefull if you ever need to remove them again

As said not really worth it unless your old ones are knakered or your doing alot of track days

maxfield wrote:As said not really worth it unless your old ones are knakered or your doing alot of track days

Sorry, but on what basis have you formed that opinion?

ok guys, so roughly 10,000 newton metres give or take going to the brake pads when you stamp on the pedal yes? So you're telling me that a 15-20 year old rubber brake hose, exposed to the elements right by the wheel, does not bulge or crack under roughly 150'000 miles worth of braking?

And forgetting here we are talking about the brakes, possibly the most important part of the car when driving?

I've got mine waiting to go on!

i say do em

theyre on my list for the sport

deffo an improvement have had em in past
also you got ring trips and pod days etc to do, cant beat nice firm brakes

Theo325 wrote:

maxfield wrote:As said not really worth it unless your old ones are knakered or your doing alot of track days

Sorry, but on what basis have you formed that opinion?

I do alot of reading

ok guys, so roughly 10,000 newton metres give or take going to the brake pads when you stamp on the pedal yes? So you're telling me that a 15-20 year old rubber brake hose, exposed to the elements right by the wheel, does not bulge or crack under roughly 150'000 miles worth of braking?

And forgetting here we are talking about the brakes, possibly the most important part of the car when driving?

I've got mine waiting to go on!

i totally agree i was just pointing out that if his original flexis have got life left in them then he may as well wait till they need replacing

Well I'm going to have to disagree with Maxfield here. Well worth doing IMHO, increased performance under hard braking conditions and also more durable, for what is in reality not a lot of extra £Â£.

That said, fitting the rear ones which go over the subframe is a nasty job due to limited accessibility and more likely than not, corroded unions waiting to round even when caressed with an 11mm brake spanner. B4STARDS!

Dan318-is wrote:ok guys, so roughly 10,000 newton metres give or take going to the brake pads when you stamp on the pedal yes? So you're telling me that a 15-20 year old rubber brake hose, exposed to the elements right by the wheel, does not bulge or crack under roughly 150'000 miles worth of braking?

And forgetting here we are talking about the brakes, possibly the most important part of the car when driving?

I've got mine waiting to go on!

likewise... oz. dont start skimping on your beast, little by little improve what can be done easily.

I had a set on my old 2 door and they worked really well. The brakes on my new touring are shocking and that's using the the exact same discs/pads and calipers as the old car but using the rubber hoses.

Make sure you buy the correct kit as they're listed incorrectly on most apps lists. You need a 6 line kit if you have rear discs and 4 lines if you have rear drums. The manufacturers specify 6 lines for abs and 4 lines for non-abs

Cheers,

Iain T

I dont agree, i really think that braided hoses work a treat!

I would also change the flexy pipe on the cluch slave

Andrew

Demlotcrew wrote:I dont agree, i really think that braided hoses work a treat!

I would also change the flexy pipe on the cluch slave

Andrew

And,

Goodridge hoses are guaranteed. Forever.

Oz this is a no brainer!

Careful Mr. 13.

People will talk. I'm already accused of being your groupie.

It's quiet tonight........ Did someone call pest control.

Ok, so mass opinion is get the hose's sorted!

I will make it so

Demlotcrew wrote:I dont agree, i really think that braided hoses work a treat!

I would also change the flexy pipe on the cluch slave

Andrew

Andrew, what is this strange flexy pipe on the clutch slave cylinder you speak of?
Hey i am made of money, might as well change it!

lol Damo! you might get a strike for being too clicky

Ozmund they are about £80 new for a set

i'm going to do a few jobs on the toureg so all i will have to do is fit the LSD and sort the brakes, i think i will be ahead of you by the end of 2moro!

Simon you weapon/tool, i know how much they are, i just don't want to do un nessiary mods/improvements unless they are worth while, hence the post

Braided hoses on the way, Sal, can you do some gold plated ones? none of that chrome sh#t

yeh get em oz they make a difference... u may aswell while ure there

why didn't you just ask your home boys who look out for you? they give it out straight bruv

Simon13 wrote:why didn't you just ask your home boys who look out for you? they give it out straight bruv

Sometimes its good to get a wider view point, just to see what the mass's are saying, no offence bread bin

As you can see we advize you well innit. (again)

Simon13 wrote:As you can see we advize you well innit. (again)

cant deny it brother, i wish i was as clever as you!

I got a Goodridge 6 line kit for £63 posted from eBay, looked like the bloke had a shed full of them.

Put some new solid brake lines/clips/T-piece on the rear at the same time, then you will never need touch em again

And they do make a difference, not much, but every little helps

Just two points to add to this. For road use, the stainless braid must have a sheath over it, and, when this type of hose fails, they fail catastrophically with no warning.

Some handy info there guys.

DanThe, are the T pieces and clips a main dealer job?

Brianmooooore, where can i get these sheaths from?

Cheers

Oz

Well worth doing imo, even I noticed the difference in the pedal feel and I get pushed down the road by funeral processions I drive so slow.

Brian im pretty sure they have sheaths on anyway, all of mine have a plastic coating over the 'braided' part of the hose if this is what you are referring to?

i think they come teflon coated as well

Dan318-is wrote:Brian im pretty sure they have sheaths on anyway, all of mine have a plastic coating over the 'braided' part of the hose if this is what you are referring to?

Any hose from a reputable source that is intended for road use will have the sheaths fitted.