E30 Zone

On a BMW you go stright to BMW and buy a starter motor and solenoid straight away.
On a Ford you try to bodge it, if this doesnt work then you go to he breakers yard in no apparent urgency.

On a BMW when a tyre goes down you get it fixed or a new tyre
On a Ford you buy a steel wheel from the breakers with a tyre with tread.

etc etc.. can anyone else see a pattern emerging here!
I'm sick of this bloody sierra!

Theres a silver lining to every cloud

FORD
Fix Or Repair Daily

yeah tell me about it!

zaust wrote:FORD
Fix Or Repair Daily

Pal318is wrote:

zaust wrote:FORD
Fix Or Repair Daily

FORD
Found On Road Dead

fookeed or really dangerous

FORD

Fly Off Road & Die!

dazleeds wrote:fookeed or really dangerous

He he

daz you have hit the nail perfectly square on the head, it's another P40/JonB special! lol

zaust wrote:FORD
Fix Or Repair Daily

Bob_S wrote:daz you have hit the nail perfectly square on the head, it's another P40/JonB special! lol

p40

u should be so lucky

thatll be paper mache bodge n spray

Found
On
Rubbish
Dump

found on roofs daily

Full
Of
Rusty
Dents

fooked
over
rusty
deathtraps

Friend Of Rampant Dread

...to be fair to Ford, they make cheap cars that people like (at the time) and they are not (nor ever have been)designed to last.

I'll get my coat.

A few years back I bought (privately) a 2nd hand Puma 1.7 16v (which was, as Daz would say, a Fooking ace car to drive) - it was *just* over 3 years old, and I noticed a small rust patch starting on the drivers door - it was rusting from the INSIDE-out.

I took it to a main dealer, they took one look and said 'Oh yes that'll be covered by warranty; let us just check with Ford H.O. and we'll book it in.'

A few months passed, so I chased them...
'oh yes erm Ford say it's not covered.....we are sorry.'

And then Ford have a HUGE customer complaints dept, whose sole job is to fob-off any complaints, by passing you around, saying no-one is here today, you'll have to take the car to the South-Pole to get it inspected, that it must have been a stone chip that wasn't treated (I replied 'but your main dealer garage said that was NOT the cause, and they've seen the car') yawn yawn etc etc

So the cars are OK, and can be very good. But I'll never buy one again.

........rant over...........

Having said all that, I put 20k miles on the Puma, and sold it for 50 GBP more than I paid for it

Full Of Rust 'n' Dust

Mind you... so are many E30's...

Full Of Risks Daily

Fix It Again Tomorrow (fiat)

Full Of Rancid Dads (ford, round my way, chav chariot par excellance!)

Forcer of Raw Destruction

they are just cheap piles of sh!t...

one of the lead lecturers on my apprenticeship course used to design engines for Ford and he said they are the worst company to work for!! he now knows all the ins and outs of how they do things and steers well clear of them!!

the only decent thing they ever gave us was Cosworth and a few of RS models. other than that, i wouldnt go near them...

And in the case of BMW's...

Black Man's Wheels - for the big black-windowed new shape 7-series

Bl**dy Mad W*nker - for the Reps in their company cars

Bent Mangled Wing - for the lunatics out there (again, mostly reps)

Any more?

stuartgallafant wrote:the only decent thing they ever gave us was Cosworth , i wouldnt go near them...

and not the whole car just the engine

But the engine wasn't Ford's baby though... outside influences...

gortour wrote:And in the case of BMW's...

Black Man's Wheels - for the big black-windowed new shape 7-series

Bl**dy Mad W*nker - for the Reps in their company cars

Bent Mangled Wing - for the lunatics out there (again, mostly reps)

Any more?

Bring Mechanic With - damn alternator

fuzzy wrote:

stuartgallafant wrote:the only decent thing they ever gave us was Cosworth , i wouldnt go near them...

and not the whole car just the engine

eh?
Ford had nothing to do with it; they got in someone who knew what they were doing.
Duckworth and Cos.... whatsisname gave us Cosworth... let me look it up

basically Costin and Duckworth modified Ford engines for racing; they were so good at it that Colin Chapman talked Ford into giving them money to develop an engine for them.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosworth

Keith Duckworth & Frank Costin, wasn't it?

I heard it was Vera Duckworth......

320Touring wrote:I heard it was Vera Duckworth......

how can you even consider taking the mick out of someone who gave us the most successful racing engine of all time?

320iSE wrote:Keith Duckworth & Frank Costin, wasn't it?

yeah, in the 70's these 2 first teamed up i think. they joined ford after andy rouse im sure

1958

they been with ford since the 50's?!