E30 Zone

hi guys,

last night after finishing work i turned my fog lights on due to mist and fog from the estuary i work by. i forgot to turn them off when the mist past and when i was just pulling into my drive the pigs pulled me over a issued me a fixed £30 penalty notice for having them on. the copper wasnt having any excuses. any ideas if i refuse to pay and go to court, on how to get away with this fine.

probably just gonna pay up as i havent the time to p*ss around.

cheers jamie

gotta pay up i'm afraid, it dazzles other drivers so they seem to be clamping down on it, its the rear fogs which dazzle really

The £30 goes towards the xmas party fund though

well technically, if he hasnt got evidence of you with the lights on, and he issued the ticket whilst you were on your drive, he cant do anything...

stuartgallafant wrote:well technically, if he hasnt got evidence of you with the lights on, and he issued the ticket whilst you were on your drive, he cant do anything...

although if he had a colleague in the car then its your word against 2 coppers,waste of time challenging it really as it might result in you having to take time of work to go and contest it ,costing you more in lost wages

well he probably had another officer on patrol with him. Therefore he can be backed up.....

Any penalty points???

What technical offence was the notice issued for??? Easist way out of any offence is check the paperwork first: most errors get you out of it.

I have a colleague who was caught with a 'brazilian' tyre for which the points would have put him and his e36 M3 (I have my suspicions it may actually be a 328, not been under the bonnet yet) off the road. Because the officer failed to issue a notice requiring him to surrender his licence (the correct procedure in the circumstance), he challenged the notice and now the matter has to go to court. There is a six month wait for a hearing round here, and the matter has not been listed yet, so earliest the matter gets resolved is July, by which time six of his nine points will have expired on his licence.

i tries to contest a misprint on a ticket he'd wrote down that i was doing 47 in a 50 instead of 47 in a 40.my appeal failed though as the offence code was correct.the risk you take going down that route is that if you fail the court can increase the penalty(more points or higher fine) its crap but sometimes your as well just paying it grudgingly then forgetting it

its a fixed penalty notice (non endorsable offence) so no points on my license. so thats pretty lucky.

he had another officer in the car so its there word against mine. so i am just going to pay up.

i have just looked at the bookings for the restaurant i work at, and the local police station is in next weekend and he is from that station. looks like i am going have to get him back in some other way

cheers jamie

j555boy wrote: i have just looked at the bookings for the restaurant i work at, and the local police station is in next weekend and he is from that station. looks like i am going have to get him back in some other way

cheers jamie

i recommend pissing in his soup or possible rubbing you **** over his main course.then smirking as you ask him "did you enjoy your meal sir" as he leaves.he'll know you ve done something

Bet you wont forget to turn them off again

My pet hate is people who drive with the fogs on unnecessarily

j555boy wrote: i forgot to turn them off

You didnt notice the big light on the dash telling you they were on?

E30Mark wrote:Bet you wont forget to turn them off again

My pet hate is people who drive with the fogs on unnecessarily

you'll hate me then lol but i must say i have mine shining down on the adjuster so it takes away the dazzel issue, i see pure people doing it so i thought id follow suit as they say. i get people flashing me all the time so i just flash back and wave at them,

agreed to the copper i will,

DONT TURN THEM ON !
its really gets to me how people can be so dumb to put them on when the know that other cars blind them when they have them on , so why put them on if you know ur going to blind other drivers.

and fog lights might only the slighteset difference in the fog so why bother

After driving all day, nothing like nothing pisses me off more than fog lights. it has been a long day and they do dazzel anyway and they are not much good in the fog.

When I see them coming towards me I put my full beam on.

I drive 80 to 100K miles ayear, it matters

what pisses me off is the way headlights on modern cars don't seem to have any cut off on dip or dont seem to be aimed at all ...especially the chelsea tractors........dazzle all the time ..the coppers dont seem to do anything about them!

Yerh and they are 10 feet from your back bumper in a line of traffic so why so close.

I call them hedgehogs, only the pricks are inside the car!!!!

Know you say you forgot to turn them off mate but i dont think your going to get much sympathy on this.Pity more old bill dont clamp down.No offence but this and people not bothering to indicate really winds me up.

cant say it really bothers me if people use their fog lights all the time but i do wonder why i see muppets with them and their normal lights on during the day

noney82 wrote:

E30Mark wrote:Bet you wont forget to turn them off again

My pet hate is people who drive with the fogs on unnecessarily

you'll hate me then lol but i must say i have mine shining down on the adjuster so it takes away the dazzel issue, i see pure people doing it so i thought id follow suit as they say. i get people flashing me all the time so i just flash back and wave at them,

this drives me absolutely demented!!!! do you also have blue LED washer jets to complete the image?

do you think that maybe the people are flashing to let you know you're being a prat? in case you didn't know already?

oh, in case you thought they did, the foglights do not adjust on the dash mounted adjuster...

Sorry to say mate i personaly think you derserve the fine as simply put, you should only have them on in fog!! Really winds me up getting blinded by all the idiots driving around with them on!

Made me chuckle recently when we had some bad fog for a couple fo days, swear blind i saw less cars with fog lights than i normaly do!

fuzzy wrote:i tries to contest a misprint on a ticket he'd wrote down that i was doing 47 in a 50 instead of 47 in a 40.my appeal failed though as the offence code was correct.the risk you take going down that route is that if you fail the court can increase the penalty(more points or higher fine) its crap but sometimes your as well just paying it grudgingly then forgetting it

Sorry but any error on a ticket invalidates it.

I was pulled over when i picked up a car in glasgow. Chaved up 318i

Stopped for;

No brake lights, 3 bald tires & no insurance.

Errors on the tickets were;

Incorrect fine amount for bald tires - invalid
Producer document had wrong street - invalid

PHEWWWWWWWW!

so being as they wrote 318 on the document and not 318is does that mean my sectiion 59 is invalid?

DaveD wrote:what pisses me off is the way headlights on modern cars don't seem to have any cut off on dip or dont seem to be aimed at all ...especially the chelsea tractors........dazzle all the time ..the coppers dont seem to do anything about them!

Most of this is appears to be down to servicing ! Everytime my work car goes in for a service it comes back with light adjusted "fully up" and I reset about midway. I bet most people don't even know they can be adjusted !

I got one of them in my Merc a few years back U live and learn

gareth wrote:

noney82 wrote:

E30Mark wrote:Bet you wont forget to turn them off again

My pet hate is people who drive with the fogs on unnecessarily

you'll hate me then lol but i must say i have mine shining down on the adjuster so it takes away the dazzel issue, i see pure people doing it so i thought id follow suit as they say. i get people flashing me all the time so i just flash back and wave at them,

this drives me absolutely demented!!!! do you also have blue LED washer jets to complete the image?

do you think that maybe the people are flashing to let you know you're being a prat? in case you didn't know already?

oh, in case you thought they did, the foglights do not adjust on the dash mounted adjuster...

yes i know they are flashing me cos iv got them on not cos YOU think im a prat, i DONT have the led washer jets and YES i KNOW the foglights dont adjust on the dash mount control

right cos u ave them on they is flashing u, so turn them off innit

Fine seems very harsh, since they're not dazzling(sp) at all..

I always the fogs on when using dipped beam....Purely cos it looks good.

Previous comments about some modern cars being blinding...This is very dangerous and gives me the right bollock ache. Even when it's not too dark they can still cause distraction....

At least the E30 full beam is totally awesome and pwns them when drive towards you

doughboy wrote:Previous comments about some modern cars being blinding...This is very dangerous and gives me the right bollock ache. Even when it's not too dark they can still cause distraction....

It's not just modern cars. E30's with bloody foglights on dazzle too!
They're foglights. If it isn't foggy, turn the bloody things off! It's not cool, it's chav!

doughboy wrote:Fine seems very harsh, since they're not dazzling(sp) at all..

They do dazzle, hence why other people flash you

Nothing worse than a wet road and some muppet coming towards you with there fog lights on... Expect a £30 fine some time soon

Sorry, But you deserve every penny of that fine.

Foglights are possibly the most frustrating thing on the road, Absolutely no reason to use them, If you are struggling to see, fit better bulbs!

Don't penalise the rest of the road users because you want to "look good"!

Jon_Bmw wrote:right cos u ave them on they is flashing u, so turn them off innit

LMFAO!

Cotty180 wrote:You didnt notice the big light on the dash telling you they were on?

Probably loads of other pretty coloured lights on in the instrument cluster too. Makes up for not having neons in the car!

doughboy wrote:I always the fogs on when using dipped beam....Purely cos it looks good.

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NO IT DOESN'T!!!