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who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are they

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:17 pm
by DJ_B4L
who has Hid lights post pics and write down what colour temperature they are

im interested in fitting a set to my cab

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:20 pm
by SHAZ325iSPORT
whats happening bruv,i have just fitted a set,they are wicked trust me,they are 8000K,when i fitted em mates were telling me they were too blue and too bright(legal limit 6000K),but police drive past me all the time,they havent said a word.will post pics tommorow,if you intrested i can get em,also can fit em for you aswell! winkeye

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:56 pm
by Simon13
the stuff on ebay is utter shIt and ain't worth a w**k

or do u mean a proper conversion via the E30zone using factory xenon parts from newer cars?

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:02 pm
by liam012
whats that simon? could one in theory get a pair of second hand lights from a newer car and rip out the xenons and retro fit to the e30 lamps? they'd need different power aswell i presume...
Is therre a right up on this conversion or is it the 200 odd pound from zone shop ony?

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:03 pm
by SHAZ325iSPORT
nah f*ck ebay shit,i didnt get it from the zone either.just used parts from newer cars!

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:09 pm
by Simon13
Liam i'm not sure if the zone shop is the conversion off the old forum or a aftermarket kit.

Yes it's a conversion of parts from newer cars so proper bulbs and ballasts etc

i'm not sure i'm allowed to spill the beans on how to do it!

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:10 pm
by DJ_B4L
im kool bro yeh def wana see pics shaz i was lookin to get the 10000k ones i think they will be a bit too blue was the best way to get the universal ones or get them from another car

how much can you get them for shaz?

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:18 pm
by liam012
I ws going to do sneaky pm to ask for info but i figure its kind of these golden nuggets that people are members of the xone for - like info on 2.7 conversions etc so i'll ask strraight out!:

Simon
I wont beg
but maybe try to appeal to your moral fibre?!
Seriously though this info should be shared!! (Though i accept being the person looking for the info i am bound to say that)
anyway any tips on the xenon conversion greatfuly appreciated.

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:25 pm
by Simon13
there are two ways i know of

xenons from a BMW X5 or audi TT

the wiring is not too difficult

mounting the ballasts

modifiy the back of the headlamp, eg dremel! the xenon bulbs are huge. Literally 5 times the size of a e30 halo bulb. This is the worst part of the hole job but not to bad imo

Thats the jist. I've never done a conversion from start to finish but i have minced about with mine enough times taking them off my car and fitting them onto the next one

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:34 pm
by DJ_B4L
cant you jus buy the right size hid kit?

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:39 pm
by Simon13
i'll say it again the hid kits are crap!

why piss about when for similar money u can have something proper that doesn't break and u can see about 4 times as far compared to standard lights.

f**k all that blue sh!te aswell if u ask me! it's all about seeing where u are going in the dark. I did it so i could drive quicker!

My xenons look nice and blue and are no where near 8000k

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:43 pm
by DJ_B4L
you have any pics of it simon and what car did you get your ones from

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:44 pm
by DJ_B4L
also simon if i take them out of another car what do i need the bulbs and the ballasts and the wiring? thanks

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:45 pm
by liam012
yes, i am all about seeing in the dark...
blue is not important, just visibaility
thanks for the tips :cool:

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:48 pm
by Simon13
an audi tt or bmx X5

u need the bulbs, ballasts + wiring

i can't find my pictures sorry

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:52 pm
by DJ_B4L
thanks for that simon taking these out dont give any kind of shock or danger?

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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:01 pm
by johnono
4100 is oem xenon
6500 is white blue
8000 is imo cheapy blue
10000 looks toally willy wonka to me

as simon says, bulbs, ballasts and wiring
and you will not regret it 8)

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:29 am
by Demlotcrew
4200 is oem.

Blue just makes the view worse.

Ask ant

Andrew

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:38 am
by M5pilot
Demlotcrew's conversion is easily the best I have ever seen.

The kits from ebay are .....well.....I have to agree with Simon.

The ones on the Zone Shop are not bad, TUV approved and are on my M5 and work very well. However, they are no way as good as what Andrew does.

Sal

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:40 am
by johnono
4200 sold! to the man with the s14 :wink:

i heard it was 4100, but :cool:

Re: who has HID lights? Post pics and what temperature are t

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:40 am
by Demlotcrew
Thanks for the kind words Sal!

Ian is getting a set done right now.

Andrew

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:44 am
by DJ_B4L
what have you used for your conversion mate?

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:48 am
by DJ_B4L
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:57 am
by johnono
sold by stans sister Shelly,.......



i kept expecting her to say "turd!" after every sentence

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:49 am
by f13ldy
I got a set from a company in the UK (not sure I'm allowed to post the name of it)

Anyhow they offered a warranty on them, took me about 1hr to fit them to a E36. Shouldn't imagine it'll take any longer to fit to an E30.

Plus the bulbs were detachable from wiring so modding the backs of the headlights needed just a small drill hole to pass the rubber grommet and wire through. Mounted the ballasts in a safer watertight place, cut into my existing earth and power cable, soldered together and switched em on.

HID's for Ԛ£200. Bargain.

Edit - Just scouring my receipts they were Ԛ£230 and a lifetime warranty.

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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:02 pm
by amit325i
when i had an e30, i put a xenon kit 6500K, while it was an improvement, i would definately say that the projector needs to be changed to get the best out of it, i would recommend not going over 6000K if you want the conversion to be functional. Demlots beam is virutally OEM, and is worth the extra effort. Over 6000K is just a complete waste of time and money, leave it for show days, since you can buy the capsules separately, i have seen some crap quality now because so many out there.

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:30 pm
by 325iSportMark
So do the conversions like Demlots and the like give you xenon dipped and main with the motorized flap like modern bi-xenons?

What about the conversion kits from places like C A Automotive, which seem like a well made kit, but very retro fit as opposed to OEM.

Love xenons, but deliberating on the best option for my baby

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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:36 pm
by Simon13
CA automotive?! behave! leave that place for bootyman and the evotechnik crowd!

U don't need xenon mainbeam. The oe setup is excellent.

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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:44 pm
by 325iSportMark
Simon13 wrote:CA automotive?! behave! leave that place for bootyman and the evotechnik crowd!

U don't need xenon mainbeam. The oe setup is excellent.
Oops, sorry, did I just swear?! lol

Always preferred a factory approach, that why I'm really interested in this thread and getting more info on some of the conversions that can be done.

The only xenons I've got experience of using are newish cars from work which have bi-xenons with the motorised flap in them. I hear what you (and others) say about xenon dipped being all you'll ever need, but can't get my head around the idea that xenon main beam isn't necessary or desirable. I know main beam isn't any brighter than dipped but the different aim means that you will always see further, so surely xenon main beam would be the ultimate?

I'm genuinely not doubting what you are saying, just trying to get a better understanding of the issues invloved :D

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:11 am
by DJ_B4L
any pics of one on a e30?

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:59 am
by Demlotcrew
Mark the problem is that the E30 low beam light just isnt large enough to accommodate a bixenon projector.

Otherwise its very possible, the electrics would be easy to wire up.

HTH

Andrew

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:47 am
by oze30
so xenons over hid??

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:01 pm
by 325iSportMark
Demlotcrew wrote:Mark the problem is that the E30 low beam light just isnt large enough to accommodate a bixenon projector.

Otherwise its very possible, the electrics would be easy to wire up.

HTH

Andrew
Aaah, I seeee!

Makes perfect sense now, like I say, this is something that I fancy for mine eventually, after getting the cambelt changed, the rear wheel bearing, the springs, the............

Thanks for explaining it all, incidentally, how much is this dogs bollocks conversion that you do? Presumably it can be applied to smoked Hellas? Sounds like the kind of quality that I'm after.

Thanks again :thumb:

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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:08 pm
by Demlotcrew
Every install is tailored to how ever much you want to spend/change.

Two main kits

Ԛ£350

Ԛ£500 with brand new single xenon projector.

HTH

Andrew