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THE ROGUE ON THE ZONE
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:34 am
by bangbus
HI all,
As promised i am now willing to divulge the user id of the man that sold me,the dirtiest set of wheels ever at the opinion of 2 alloy wheel centres,both said the only course of action is refurb.i paid £235 for them,described as V.V GOOD CONDITION , no kerbing,light scratches,4 good tyres,1 needed replacing,will clean up MINT!!!!! His own words,check the zone for sale thread.
The reality is to far gone to clean,kerbing on 4 out of five bought,2 illegal tyres,1 borderline,paint lifting,brake dust everywhere.After reporting my dissatisfaction on delivery to the seller was told the money had been spent,was told he would try to get loan to reimburse me and i would send them back(at my expense,£60).48 hours later,no contact,left numerous messages,pm via zone,nothing!!!!
THE member i am refering to is HAMMERHEADBEEMER,real name Malcolm Good,from Bedford,he has other items on the zone for sale,take my advice STEER WELL CLEAR,descriptions are out and out lies,dishonest,no better than a common thief in my opinion.
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:59 am
by Widge
Hi mate, I'm always sad to hear stuff like this, I think you should post up close photos of the wheels to back up your story. Because if someone is selling stuff so badily misrepresented somthing should be done about it.
im trying
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:22 am
by bangbus
I am,as suggested trying to post some photos can anyone help me out im new to this,have uploaded onto photoshack but cant get to load onto the zone.thanks
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 11:26 am
by Widge
Hi mate, you need the URl from photoshack then put [img]infront%20of%20it%20and[/img] after it, or there may be a direct thing that you can just copy and paste, it's the 3rd one down on photobucket.
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:09 pm
by Simon
Just looked up his username, and it seems he has only ever used the sales section on the zone, I'd be wary of anyone who just joins up for selling etc.
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:07 pm
by Nelly
Couple of pic's on behalf of "bangbus" - more to follow

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:15 pm
by 316eyes
Added to my "Not getting any of my £Â£Ã‚£Ã‚£s" list.
If you want to pursue him legally try this......
https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco/index.jsp
Works well because they end up with a CCJ if they don't pay up.
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:17 pm
by Jon_Bmw
Yes that second tyre is on the verge of being lethal!

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:22 pm
by Widge
Jon_Bmw wrote:Yes that second tyre is on the verge of being lethal!

OR fun in the rain depending how you look at it. But that's not the point, the point is they were sold as having good (apart from 1) tyres, which they clearly are not. And being returnable to mint. I have nothing against people who sell alloys with crap tyres, if you know what you are getting, same goes for the condition of the alloys. TBH I sold a set for £120 not so long ago and they were 100 times better than that lot. Same sort of condition, a bit better, but they had a set of matching conways on them with 4-9mm trad, so I think you can demany your money back mate as you could get a better set for less - they should have been mint at that price, and it would have been ok had they been....
Sorry waffling now......

!!
Thanks to neil
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 5:26 pm
by bangbus
I would like to say a big public thankyou to Nelly for hosting these photos for me,please bear in mind these wheels have been cleaned thoroughly already,when we got them they were 10X worse.Neil will be posting more photos,take note of the nails in the tyres also.
But why should i worry,as hammerheadbeemer said they will clean up mint!(NOT).I think a membername of DICKHEADBEEMER is more appropriate!
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:42 pm
by Simon13
shame your so far away, probably did it because he knew u were so far away.
Otherwise i'd be knocking on the door, and who knows what would happen!
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:59 pm
by Simon
I also noticed in a thread previous to the thread you bought them from, he wanted offers af around £150 originally!
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:01 pm
by pete320i
hi, sorry to here about this, i did try and get these wheels my self as he does not live far from me, but i heard no more when i bid, so i thought some else had won the bid. this now worries me about bying wheels. hope you get this problem sorted. pete.
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 8:05 pm
by Chris-W
Blimey.
Only 'mint' in the merseyside use of the word, ie. 'minty'!
OOOHHH!
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:52 pm
by stE30
Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:50 pm
by Nelly
Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:05 pm
by pete320i
there must be some thing bangpuss can do, looking at the pics they are bad.its not far and not right.
Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 8:16 pm
by Nelly
I'd go and get my money back personally if you've got the guys address - ring him first to tell him the sp though.
Or some one can get it for you

Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:31 pm
by tylerma
anyone who sells a set of wheels in that condition
should be f*****g ashamed of themselves.
I would be paying a visit
if it were me
Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:34 pm
by dobbie82
Chris-W wrote:Blimey.
Only 'mint' in the merseyside use of the word, ie. 'minty'!
what does mint mean in scouse then?
those wheels are shocking!
Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:14 am
by amit325i
without sounding patronising, did you buy these wheels without looking at pictures of the wheels, thats a big no no.
But whats done is done, you can get them refurbed from a place in hemel hempstead if you are after a value job, its a trek but may save some money.
I also have one new tyre to fit 15" BBS wheels, let me know if your interested via PM.
Its a shame that people have to resort to lying about this stuff.
Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:18 am
by Rich_W
Not trying to be funny, but theres no pics that I cab see on the original thread. And knowing that generally wheels are the items that get damaged or scuffed. I wouldn't of just taken his (or anybodies for that matter) word for it.
IMHO you should of viwed before buying, and whilst they may not be as described you wil be lucky to get any money back. So it may be better to chalk it up to experience, than pay out more to chase him.
Just get the refurbed and it won't matter quite so much.
Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:58 am
by Geoff
Hi mate sorry to hear about this, i do feel for you. Without wanting to appear to be having a dig, did you not manage to see any photographic evidense of the wheels prior to handing over the readies to this theiving scumbag??
Because if i had seen them in that state id be telling him to stick it at that price. Again im definately not condoning what he'd done but i personally would never buy anything without seeing them.
If on the other hand hed shown you a set of wheels which turned out to be completely different then the geeza needs DROPPING!
Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:11 am
by m3ben05
To be fair - if a fellow zone member told me something was in good condition i would believe them. I guess im too trusting, it just shows that there are still some scumbags lurking on here
Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 1:51 am
by nav786
m3ben05 wrote:To be fair - if a fellow zone member told me something was in good condition i would believe them. I guess im too trusting, it just shows that there are still some scumbags lurking on here
gotta agree, yes he should have looked for pics but the zone is supposed to be a community thing. This guy is just one of those that comes on to sell so hes not really one of those.
lesson learned tho mate, never buy anything without seeing pics at least
Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:07 am
by herman
I have said this before dodgy dealers are targeting, the zone. Buyer beware. Maybe we could set up a inspection, for zoners a long way from the sale. This would have to be condition only 'cause mechanical is a bit of a grey area.
In the case of the wheels, another zoner would have seen they were bad.
Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:14 pm
by fuzzy
bottom line is never trust anyones word that you dont actually know,although a regular with a higher post count would tend to be more trustworthy,and certainly never buy anything without actually seeing pics

isnt £235 a bit steep for they wheels even in top condition?

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 12:24 pm
by Herrity
Where about is he from ? I will gladly go and see him for you, those wheels are a mess, I've read he's in merseyside if you would like a part refund let me know with his address and I'll pay him a polite zone visit !!
Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:22 pm
by bangbus
Hi Everyone,
Thanks for all your concern,some call it nievety,i call it trustworthiness,i didnt receive photos,took him at his word,what a laugh !the guy sounded genuine,called me regularly prior to sale to keep me posted etc.I do think he genuinely believed they would clean up,but then David Blain thought he could hold his breath for a week under water,Fat chance!
I realise i cant do a lot its just so frustrating knowing it,i have had a quote for a refurb of £275 for 4 wheels,that brings them in at about £525 including courier etc.Just a case of cutting my losses,legal costs,pointless, and its 300 +miles to give him a kick in,cant say i havent thought about it!!!!
An expensive lesson,Yes if anyone wants to reclaim my money they're more than welcome.Real name Malcolm Good works at Bedford mot centre in Bedford!People like this dont do the zone any favours ruin it for decent owners.
Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:42 pm
by ad318i
problem is that there is 2 malcolm good's in bedford, jus need to work out which 1!!!!
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 12:24 am
by massive
ad318i wrote:problem is that there is 2 malcolm good's in bedford, jus need to work out which 1!!!!
Just give them both a kick-in!! The wrong one must have done somethin worthy of it at some stage of his life.

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 12:46 am
by 316eyes
Did you check out this link?
https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco/index.jsp
Doesn't cost a lot, IIRC about £25, and you can do it online.
Must be worth a try.
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:56 pm
by appletree
got 15inch bbs refurb done at wheel magic in barnsley wy wheels were fair some corrosion from back and the odd scuff. They chemically stripped blasted I think powder coated undercoat and silver + laquer (i think) £165 they checked rims true before starting and can fit + balance Tyres. Nice job lads at ferry bridge said very nice best refurb they seen. If phone number needed PM me as it will take a bit of finding.
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:16 pm
by Bob_S
gutted for you mate, cream cleaner and lots of elbow grease will get that off, you just need time though. not on at all he deserves all he gets
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:48 am
by gooner1
Sorry to hear bout your probs with wheels mate.Know its easy to say in hindsight but had a feeling about this hammer head,i offered a good price
for those wheels and sent a few pms,even offered to pick em up same eve
as i only live 20 miles away.Also couldnt find any posts on here from him
only stuff for sale.Hope you get it sorted mate cos there for the grace and all that,go i.