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Short Shifter Fun

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:55 pm
by Incitatus
Collected the parts I ordered from BMW this morning and have spent a couple of hours fitting my new short shifter :D

I got the Z3 2.8 shift lever on the advise of Hoshy, as he'd fitted that to his car, and I was impressed when I tried it at the rolling road meet last saturday.

Really worthwhile mod, and I recommend it to anyone, although I was glad I had use of a two post lift for removing and replacing the selector rod.

Another cheap mod thanks to the 'Zone :thumb:

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 6:01 pm
by eko
Top conversion for the money!

Give it a week,then get back into an E30 with standard shift :eek:

Re: Short Shifter Fun

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:05 pm
by oguz327
Incitatus wrote:Collected the parts I ordered from BMW this morning and have spent a couple of hours fitting my new short shifter :D

I got the Z3 2.8 shift lever on the advise of Hoshy, as he'd fitted that to his car, and I was impressed when I tried it at the rolling road meet last saturday.

Really worthwhile mod, and I recommend it to anyone, although I was glad I had use of a two post lift for removing and replacing the selector rod.

Another cheap mod thanks to the 'Zone :thumb:

I am gonna do this mod myself aswell, i dont supose you have the part numbers for the Z3 2.8 shifter? I hear that its an even shorter shift than the 1.9 one and the part numbers listed are wrong by one digit in the articles section, allthough i could be wrong.
cheers

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 8:51 pm
by Incitatus
Sure, the part number for the 2.8 shift lever is 25.11.1.222.884.

Hoshy told me that the 2.8 was an even shorter throw, and after trying his I didn't want anything less.

I've only had chance to drive it a couple of miles since I fitted it, but as eko said, it wouldn't be nice going back to the standard one now!

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:26 pm
by JAMZ
Doesnt that shifter cross the line of confort and shift throw... heard its got a small throw but seems a bit knocky to use a better word?

was thinking about it myself but not sure on what shifter to use

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:41 pm
by Lordschleife
I bought the bits to do this over a year ago, but never got round to doing it - decided I actually quite like the std throw

I tend to shift pretty quick anyway, and BMWs always seem to have knotchy boxes
I feel this will seem worse and I'll start missing shifts If I do the short shift conversion

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:51 pm
by hoshy
Hey great Jayson. glad you're enjoying it.

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 9:53 pm
by JAMZ
Lordschleife wrote:I bought the bits to do this over a year ago, but never got round to doing it - decided I actually quite like the std throw

I tend to shift pretty quick anyway, and BMWs always seem to have knotchy boxes
I feel this will seem worse and I'll start missing shifts If I do the short shift conversion
Let me know if yer wanna sell the setup dude,might be intrested

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:03 pm
by Lordschleife
Err well I suppose I could sell it then reorder the bits if I did decide to fit

You're only down the road in pompey, I'm down there visiting mates every now and then anyway

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:06 pm
by JAMZ
Well let me know bud,you could always come down and help me fit it,which would mean you being a skola,me making you drinks and passing tools :wink: :D ..

Whatever though,if yer wanna sell it Pm me bud with a price

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:08 pm
by Taylor325i
JAMZ wrote:Doesnt that shifter cross the line of confort and shift throw... heard its got a small throw but seems a bit knocky to use a better word?

was thinking about it myself but not sure on what shifter to use


If you don't wanna go too extreme I think the Z3 1.9 shifter will suit you.

I've got the 1.9 shifter on both my cars and I think it is perfect - a 100% improvement over standard and it'll take you 2 mins to get used to it.


Taylor.

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:09 pm
by Incitatus
JAMZ wrote:Doesnt that shifter cross the line of confort and shift throw... heard its got a small throw but seems a bit knocky to use a better word?

was thinking about it myself but not sure on what shifter to use
I've just been out for a quick drive to get a better feel of it. It's probably very subjective which one you use, but I have not had any problems finding the gear I want, when I want. I think the speed of the change is not much different, but then in a road car the fractions of seconds you save are not really relevant. What I like is the fact that the feeling is improved greatly, and that all helps make the car feel tighter, and adds to the enjoyment. I was so impressed by Hoshy's last weekend I ordered the bits first thing after the bank holiday!

I think if other people are going to drive the car, maybe the 1.9 is the safe bet, but if it's only you who will drive the 2.8 lever would be the one to have.

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:36 pm
by oguz327
Cheers for the info Incitatus,
lol, not sure which one to go for now, prob be the 2.8 as no one else drives my motor

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 10:40 pm
by JoeE30
What are the parts fully needed for this conversion as mine is like stirring porridge.... :cool:

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:15 pm
by hoshy
check out the tech articles section.

Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:19 pm
by stevetigger
Take your pic! The longer the part to the right of the line the shorter the throw!

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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:45 pm
by hoshy
nice. would be good to try out some of the z4 shifters. I like how they lower the overall height.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:50 am
by miniblob
Don't suppose anyone knows the part numbers for the Z3-M and the Z4 - 3.0???

Which one should i use?!?!?!!

I'm thinking maybe the Z4 jobbie!!

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:27 pm
by Incitatus
I suspect if you use the Z3-M shifter you may have trouble getting the selector rod to clear the vibration damper on the prop, but the Z4 3.0 looks good.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:25 pm
by baboon5151
how much did you pay for shifter & from where.cheers

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:55 pm
by Incitatus
The shift lever itself was £37.79 from my local main dealer. The total parts cost including new shims, circlips and a mounting as advised by the article in the technical section was £44.13.

Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:48 pm
by thesaint
Incitatus wrote:
the fractions of seconds you save are not really relevant.
so u still wont be able to keep up with me then? Although u may be putting one on next week when im back :D