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YODI wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:45 pm

everyone says don't 2.8 it, it's an 'IS' but I don't care about all that, the car needs a turbo, a conversion or to be sold which I don't want to do.
What do I do?

YODI wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:55 pm

I think £850 is expensive for an exhaust that the Wiki page advises not to buy, seems a lot for zero performance gain. my bad I should have been clearer.

flybynite wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:10 am

YODI wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:55 pm

I think £850 is expensive for an exhaust that the Wiki page advises not to buy, seems a lot for zero performance gain. my bad I should have been clearer.

Wiki page is on about manifolds and not complete exhausts. It is also on about manifolds for the M20 not the M42.

The wiki is from a different time when if you wanted more power in your 318is you simply sold it and bought a 325i. Not as easy now but that is why there is not much on tuning the M42

As I have said before I would Eaton supercharge it but it is not going to be cheap for what you get but nothing is. it is not going to be on a plate as it will take a lot of install work and fine tuning.

In the past you have said you cannot find anything about it but 5 mins on google and www.318ti.org there are kits available. I would budget £4k for any turbo/supercharge conversion and prices are only going one way. 2.8 conversion (either M20 or M52) not going to be cheap if you do it properly.

Something like this

https://hydemotorworks.com/shop/product ... rger-kits/

YODI wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:50 am

If you had to throw a figure at a 2.8 conversion, doing all the labour yourself but 'properly' what would you estimate?

martauto wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:25 pm

I dont know if its possible but how about adding a bunch of Webers on it instead of the injection system?

flybynite wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:17 pm

If you go that route, keep your old engine and the bits to put it back. Lost count of people not done that and regretted it.

DanThe wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:11 pm

flybynite wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:17 pm

If you go that route, keep your old engine and the bits to put it back. Lost count of people not done that and regretted it.

I can understand keeping the original parts if you have the space but a decent M52 done right and you wont want to put an M42 back in

joe87 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:05 am

Have to say, I have the fritz bits m42 exhaust system and I love it! Looks the nuts too! It sounds great and does go a bit better as well This is the only thing I've done to it in regards to performance, no chip or anything so far.

YODI wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:36 am

joe87 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:05 am

Have to say, I have the fritz bits m42 exhaust system and I love it! Looks the nuts too! It sounds great and does go a bit better as well This is the only thing I've done to it in regards to performance, no chip or anything so far.

Where are you in the UK mate?

Be30 wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:52 am

Cant comment on the fritz parts as i’d be biased, but an m42 done right is wicked imo!

DanThe wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:11 pm

I can understand keeping the original parts if you have the space but a decent M52 done right and you wont want to put an M42 back in

YODI wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:55 am

Everyone says that but I don't feel it, it's okay but everyone harps on about sitting on the rev limiter etc but it just doesn't have the power, maybe on track it's good

flybynite wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:00 pm

DanThe wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:11 pm

I can understand keeping the original parts if you have the space but a decent M52 done right and you wont want to put an M42 back in

Until the time comes you need to sell it and it is worth half the price without its original engine

YODI wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:55 am

Everyone says that but I don't feel it, it's okay but everyone harps on about sitting on the rev limiter etc but it just doesn't have the power, maybe on track it's good

OK help us out to understand. What are you doing with it when you are short of power? Are you overtaking? Burning people off the lights? Trying to do burnouts/doughnuts/lay 11s etc etc?

For me on a twisty A or B road quiet Sunday morning can't think of many cars I would pick ahead of a good running 318is, bilstein B12, Purple rack, Z3 shifter is all it needs. Bit like how Chris Harris likes his old 205 Rallye. Lots of fun without the speed to kill yourself.

I think a lot of time it is not the engine but bad use of the gearbox

martauto wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:47 pm

Forgive my ignorance but does the 318is have a LSD as standard ?

flybynite wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:10 am

but that is why there is not much on tuning the M42

rix313 wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:55 pm

I have fitted a couple of the FBz exhausts and have one on my own car. For £600 the quality and fitment is amazing and I can't fathom how he can make any money on them to be honest. I don't have experience of his chips.

If you have some coin you want to spend on your M42, BDS are the guys to speak to about waking the engine up.

rix313 wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:55 pm

I have fitted a couple of the FBz exhausts and have one on my own car. For £600 the quality and fitment is amazing and I can't fathom how he can make any money on them to be honest. I don't have experience of his chips

flybynite wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 20, 2022 9:10 am

but that is why there is not much on tuning the M42

On the contrary, the likes of BDS and indeed FBz have done a tremendous amout of tuning work on this motor. The former has recently done my race engine and offers a range of tuning options in the form of head work, mapping, inlets and exhausts.

flybynite wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:59 pm

Rix please read my full post. I was referring to not much information in the wiki.

Yes things have changed a bit since then but when the wiki was written there was not much about then and M20B25s were plentiful. Wiki has not been updated to reflect anything done since