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Got Touring Dyno'd

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:44 pm
by M5pilot
Had my 325i Touring dyno'd at Bexley while it was in for brake fluid change on Wednesday.

The reason I had this done is because I fitted one the E30Zone Shop ITG induction kits and felt quite a big difference in midrange torque - it was really apparent in the higher gears. It felt more powerful than most of the 325i's I've had in the past.
The other reason is I wanted to see if this car was a good test bed for other performance parts that are sold through the shop.

The car has no other modifications at all.

It made:

173 bhp @ 5700 rpm

177 lb.ft @ 4100 rpm

I will post up the graphs later but I was really impressed. It did kind of explain why it felt so good through the midrange.

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:50 pm
by mason
Must of just missed you Sal

Dropped off my sisters e36 M3 down to Jags picked it up yesterday done a fantastic job

ITG fiter sounds good mate keep up the good work

Mason

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:10 pm
by stevetigger
How much does it cost to have a car RR'd

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:48 pm
by M5pilot
A rolling rd costs around 35+VAT for a power run.

mason, I saw your sisters car there! Shame I didnt get there a little earlier.

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:00 pm
by Andy335Touring
Shame you couldn't get a before and after power run(air filters) ?

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:26 am
by M5pilot
I am going to get a before and after run in the next week hopefully - the test needs to be performed with a totally clean OE air filter, my old one was a bit dirty but not very much.

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:17 pm
by oze30
Hey Sal,

JonB is getting my engine sorted, so hopefully will be able to do a before/after on the you know whatsee! (As soon as I can save up enough cash and clean my air filter)

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:32 am
by M5pilot
Touring now has full scorpion system on it. Got it for 95 notes and its pretty new. My old exhaust I thought was leaking so it was rude not to fit it. Old exhaust turned out to be ok and it was 2 manifold studs loose that caused the blowing!

Anyway, its failry quiet right now - I'm sure it will get noisy after a while!

Definate loss of bottom end torque!!

Re: Got Touring Dyno'd

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:00 am
by Cotty
M5pilot wrote:
It made:

173 bhp @ 5700 rpm

177 lb.ft @ 4100 rpm
Thats good

Did you also get an "at wheels figure" when I had mine RR at Surry Rolling Road they couldnt give me a flywheel figure as its an auto but it made 121 at the wheels which they calculated to be 165 at the flywheel

Mine is totally standard at the moment but Ant is putting the Zone chip in this week so will have to get an after figure for it.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:48 pm
by M5pilot
The bexley dyno does show real wheel BHP but it doesnt record it on a graph.

I was looking and it made just over 130bhp at the wheels.

Losses are calculated on the run down and added to the wheels figure through the entire rev range - it is quite accurate.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:05 pm
by fuzzy
so it lost 40 bhp in the transmission? thats about 25%, i was told it was only about 10-15% you lost 8O

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:07 pm
by M5pilot
You cannot work out losses as a percentage. Its a very very general way of doing things and is highly innacurate. Different cars have different wear in the box and diff, there is difference in tyres etc etc. There are so many variables.

E30 m3's normally lose about 40-50bhp through the tranmission.

Scots car put down around 210rwhp and made 249bhp at the flywheel - that has the same gearbox as me and an open diff.

When I did my dyno run two people had to sit in the back to stop it wheel spinning (cold tyres) hence increasing friction on the rollers.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:11 pm
by Ant
open diff
sorry, thats just wrong :wink:

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:44 am
by vindication
BHP losses

17.9% FWD
24.8% RWD

All taken as average.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:45 am
by M5pilot
ant wrote:
open diff
sorry, thats just wrong :wink:
Oi! Planning on getting LSD soon ok! Your fitting it remember. :twisted:

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:26 am
by jonb
sal

what you going to give ant for fitting it? cup of tea and a cake at aces. :?

so lets work this out.

325i touring + air filter thing = 173 bhp

+ special manifold = 191 bhp

+zone keyring = 201bhp

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:45 am
by M5pilot
Ants prices are very reasonable and he does alot of extra work at no extra cost - so tea and cake at Aces is well deserved!

173 bhp is so far what its made.

Lets see what the manifold gives along with the Keyring.

If it makes good power then I will take it to another rolling road with a standard 325i for comparison. I know they work and give some excellent gains so have no problems doing this.

I firmly believe near 200 bhp can be achieved from a 2.5 if the right parts are fitted. 190 bhp has been done and dusted with a few mods so its not exactly hard.

Remember, the manifold has had alot of work go into it, ideas were taken from the RD manifold as it was an excellent design to start with.