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WOULD YOU BUY A Q REG. CAR???

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:29 pm
by bootyman
As the topic says? I've decided to sell my blue cab as it would be too expensive to rip the kit off and start again and also a shame to spend all that money then throw the kit away, so i'm looking for a nice clean 320 or 325 cab to build my Euro dream winkeye Condition of the body and exterior doesnt really matter as i will get the car retrimmed and resprayed, but it has to be mint in all other ways with no rust and preferably with low milage and i saw this one on Auto trader. I'm tempted, but it seems quiet steep for a Q plate car. I was also wondering if you'd buy a Q plated car or stay well away and look around for something else? I also saw a P Reg E36 M3 Evo with only 34k miles, but a LHD. That really took my fancy too, but i'm sticking with the E30 for now :wink:

Cheers

B


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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:37 pm
by E30BeemerLad
don't think there is anything wrong in particular with a Q plater Ben, but I think you are stuck with the Q plate for life and could not transfer a private plate on, but I may be full of smelly brown stuff there. I think it really depends on what caused the car to be on a Q, possibly is a re-shell,so could be right up your street.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:42 pm
by Kedge
I can't see a problem so long as when you look at the car it all looks ok, bound to have an affect on it value though and how easy it'd be to sell.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:51 pm
by kam-325i
It depends on the reason why it is on a Q plate.....

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:04 pm
by bootyman
Didn't none of you read the bloody advert? It say's stolen recovered :D

Kedge i think you're right about the respray value and beemerlad you're right about the number plate bit winkeye

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:06 pm
by Geeman
I wouldn't buy one just because it IS a Q plater. No chance of putting your plate on it at all.

Remeber though, it will be more difficult to move on though, so don't buy it to make a quick buck from it.

It is a bit on the high side price-wise though... considering it is a Q plate.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:07 pm
by Zayyan
bootyman wrote:you're right about the respray value
:lol:

Can guess what's on your mind!

To be honest I wouldn't buy a Q-plated car unless it was 1996 or before then and your car would look newer than everyone elses :wink:

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:09 pm
by bootyman
That's what i was thinking G. All i want is a completly standard 325/320 with low milage and a straight body that i could work with. No point in spending lots doing up a car on a Q Plate if you'll have problems shifting it later on. Might just hold on and see what else comes aorund winkeye

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:10 pm
by bootyman
:D I think i'm starting to get ahead of myself now :wink:

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:15 pm
by Toby_Unna
bootyman wrote:Didn't none of you read the bloody advert?
that's what i was thinking! :roll:

if i could afford not to buy one i would stay clear. whatever the reason, everyone else looks at it and wonders how bent it is underneath!

however if i was after a bargain car i would def get one

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:21 pm
by E30BeemerLad
stolen recovered doesn't put a car on a Q plate though IIRC, for a car to go onto a Q it has to contain more of a % of bits from other cars than the original car doesn't it? A stolen recovered vehicle just ends up with a history on HPI unless it was stripped to a bare shell and had to be rebuilt with spares or was re-shelled?

oh ho, there's that smelly brown stuff again, paarp! :D

But like people have commented, it's a lot of dosh for a car with such a chequered history

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:26 pm
by bootyman
I though stolen recovered is when a car's history can not be raced so they stick it on a Q? 8O

Either way it looks nice, but like i said, no point in buying a car like that for Ԛ£4k, then spending another Ԛ£4k on it and then cant sell it later cause of it's history. I'll hold out for a normal one i can put D4DY B on winkeye

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:54 pm
by stevetigger
Im 98.9% sure you can put a P/P on a Qplate car, before everyone jumps in to beat me up! The reason I say this is........

A car in my town a few years back (Fiesta RS Turbo) was driving around on a Q Plate and the next time I saw it a few months later, guess what P/P! Just my ten pence, also when the lad ( I knew him through a friend)
sold it, He put the Q plate back on!

Thats why I say 98.9% because he might of just been dodgy, but he drove around for about a year with the P/P on and he wasnt a big town. Look on a map (Newport, Shropshire) Its more like a very big village and the coppers are Wa**ers there

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:05 pm
by bootyman
I'm show he done it on the sly cause the last time i checked, a Q is the same as a Kit Car and you cant disguise the fact the it's a Q. Things might have changed since, but i doubt that very much.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:14 pm
by andrewe30m3
bootyman, check out my old cab in the link below;
http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... ic&t=27349

I sold it to a mate last year and he is now looking to move it on, I think he wants Ԛ£3600 for it, and its mint as can be... located in SW london.

Its a late 1991 (December 30th rfrom memory) when it was built, and has full black leather, manual hood and only 90k with FSH!!! Also late rear lights and facelift model with plastic bumpers... let me know if your interested and i can pass on details.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:19 pm
by bootyman
Lovely looking dude, but i'm looking for lower milage than that winkeye

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:26 pm
by andrewe30m3
ok, no worries... good luck!

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:37 pm
by stevetigger
bootyman wrote:I'm show he done it on the sly cause the last time i checked, a Q is the same as a Kit Car and you cant disguise the fact the it's a Q. Things might have changed since, but i doubt that very much.
It was about 1998, he was a sly guy......he was a the dole with a new Range Rover and a Motorsport Cab. I never asked how he had them, but somebody said his Nan died and he got the money from that! 8O

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:42 pm
by kam-325i
stevetigger wrote:
It was about 1998, he was a sly guy......he was a the dole with a new Range Rover and a Motorsport Cab. I never asked how he had them, but somebody said his Nan died and he got the money from that! 8O
Was that Rob "cant remmember his sirname" from Randlay, an alledged "dodgy dealer" ?

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:39 pm
by MFree
i have a Q reg car, its a one-off mid engined prototype with an Alfa boxer engine, called a Pelland, it looks like a tiny Ferrari 246 GT, gorgeous looking thing, sadly ivelet it deteriorate a bit as it was on the road once, i need to sort it out badly, anyway i looked into this issue and you DEFINITELY CANNOT change a Q plate for a private plate or anything else!!!

Fact...

Ask the DVLA if you want!

MFree

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:58 pm
by stevetigger
kam-325i wrote:
stevetigger wrote:
It was about 1998, he was a sly guy......he was a the dole with a new Range Rover and a Motorsport Cab. I never asked how he had them, but somebody said his Nan died and he got the money from that! 8O
Was that Rob "cant remmember his sirname" from Randlay, an alledged "dodgy dealer" ?
No a lad from Newport!

You might of heard of him.....Ginge(big guy)

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:26 pm
by Jon_Bmw
Also Ben something else about Q plate cars...

If you look on most insurance websites they say cannot me modified blah blah blah and not on a Q plate. So they may be more expensive to insure too??

Anyway it seems like the general consensus is to avoid.
:D

Jon

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:07 pm
by scottybeemer
Jon_Bmw wrote:Also Ben something else about Q plate cars...

If you look on most insurance websites they say cannot me modified blah blah blah and not on a Q plate. So they may be more expensive to insure too??

Anyway it seems like the general consensus is to avoid.
:D

Jon
ive also heard that

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:28 pm
by m-dtech
i once bought a q plate transit van.

it was imaculate in every way.

never asked why it was q plated. only had the green part of the v5 i did 8k miles from london to edinburgh with it.

it eventualy was left in london and dissapeared.... lol

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:18 pm
by c76jon
ben
you cannot remove a q plate ..........period
i have owned them and i have ahem cough created a few in my time

the chassis number of that cab will begin sabtvr

basically if that car has been stolen and then recovered it has been placed on a q because they could not identify its original chassis number and therefore they wouldnt know what plate to put it on
so they issue new chassis number and it goes on q plate

it was at one time a very easy way to cover the identity of a stolen car
ie take a car that has totally no id on whatsoever
all removed

put a red bonnet on blue car
green door etc etc so it looks like car has been built up
have a fist full of moody receipts for shell,engine etc etc and they would issue q plate

go home put all the bits from the original car back on
hey presto
stolemotor now "leagally" back on road with all the papers and numbers in place to show the feds if you get stopped

not as easy now iam going back in the day
they have changed all the salvage rules etc and the dvla offices are far more clued up
but i bet that cab was put onto q a fair while back and ill put money on it that it wasnt 100% straight at the time.

wait for a proper one ben

its rich at that money imho

john

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:13 am
by bootyman
Cheers for all the advise guys/Jon. The market is quiet at the moment, but i'm sure in the next month or so we'll start to see more convertibles coming out to play, then i'll be in a position to pounce. Hoepfully i would have sold the blue one too by then, and i can get straight to chopping winkeye

Funny actually, cause of all the tons of cars i've had over the years, the only one i ever made any money on was a Q plated Golf Gti convertible i once had. It was white with white leather and i bought it for Ԛ£3.5k, used it for over a year and sold it for nearly Ԛ£5k :mad:

Still no point in buying one now, spending top dollar on it and have problems with insurance and selling it later so i'm staying well clear winkeye :wink: