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E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:23 am
by reggid
does anyone have any pics of the Alpina heat shield they fitted with the 6 branch manifold?

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:28 am
by pukar
https://www.google.co.uk/search?biw=128 ... 1PvqBJf2_8

they just look like regular ones to me?

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:42 am
by reggid
there is an extra piece that looks to clip onto the standard heat shield pg 10 but not sure if this is the only attachment method

http://www.thealpinaregister.com/downlo ... ts/e30.pdf

http://9tro.com/media/features/tuned-ca ... m-the-past

Image

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:22 pm
by pukar
oh, right, not seen that before... is it genuine alpina?

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:23 am
by reggid
yes, the pdf shows part number but wouldnt know where to get one. i was going to make something similar

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:07 pm
by pukar
email alpina with the part number and they'll tell you if it is nla

export@alpina.de

although showing off your alpina six branch is surely more aesthetically pleasing?

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:31 am
by reggid
Puts a shitload of heat into the engine bay even with ceramic coating

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:13 pm
by pukar
but will the extra metal stop the amount of heat, i can't see how unless it shifts the heat outside of the engine bay? the heat shield are just to stop the HT leads getting too hot i thought...unless i'm wrong :?

those leads all over the heat shield in the pic you posted looks wrong as well... should they not be tidy in a rail? they would probably rest on the manifold if that extra metal was not in place.

might be worth asking alpina the question when you email them. it would certainly be interesting to know what it's real purpose was. could you post up if you find out?

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:01 pm
by Brianmoooore
pukar wrote:but will the extra metal stop the amount of heat, i can't see how unless it shifts the heat outside of the engine bay?
Looks like it'll catch a fair bit of air flow from the radiator/fan, so it probably does remove a fair bit of exhaust heat out the bottom of the engine bay.
Agree about the ignition leads. Tied together like that, there'll be a fair bit of inductive coupling between them, increasing the rise time of the EHT, reducing its peak value, and raising the possibility of a couple of extra plugs firing as well as the one that should be.

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:49 pm
by BenHar
Brianmoooore wrote: Agree about the ignition leads. Tied together like that, there'll be a fair bit of inductive coupling between them, increasing the rise time of the EHT, reducing its peak value, and raising the possibility of a couple of extra plugs firing as well as the one that should be.
Why is tying them together any different from having them in the standard ducting?

Thanks
Ben

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:14 am
by reggid
its just a simple radiation heat shield, reflecting the heat downwards. nothing to do with air flow as such or ducting etc. The s50b32 in e36 M3 has one.

my windscreen reservoir water gets hot enough to pressurize from the water heating and a slight leak out the lid. i added a stick on reflective alumized sheet which helped but best to tackle the source as best as possible as everything else in the vicinity is being heated to. dont even ask about the clutch reservoir....

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:05 pm
by Kedge
I've considered ceramic coating for my BTB manifold due to the heat it gives off, have you found it to be a waste of money?

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:27 am
by reggid
ceramic coating works but its not a miracle cure

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:48 pm
by Simon13
And what problems are you suffering from heat then?

these sheilds came about so i'm told because in hot weather and heavy traffic the MD of BMW GB suffered some melted HT leads in his C2 2.7 back in the day. He wasn't amused and big cheeses get results so this is what they came up with

the E34 bi turbos have something very similar but the heat off two turbos is a fair bit greater!!

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:57 am
by reggid
i am also trying to reduce inlet air temps on hot days and reducing under bonnet temps as much as possible and reflecting the heat down as oppose to letting it make its way over to the inlet side is one of many things i am doing.

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:03 pm
by Simon13
Are you running a standard air box?

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:31 pm
by DanThe
Cutting the rear 3/4 off the bonnet is a popular mod nowadays winkeye

Re: E30 Alpina exhaust manifold heat shield

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:21 am
by reggid
Simon13 wrote:Are you running a standard air box?
custom airbox with ITB, needs to be sealed off from the engine bay properly currently sucking through a cone....

IAT were 70C today with A/C running car stationary but it was 46C outside in the shade. coolant temp was between 86-90C