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Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:59 am
by PG325
I fitted new rear wheel bearings and back plates yesterday, I'm going to replace the hard lines which run along the trailing arms as these were cut and removed.

I'm having trouble finding a hand flaring tool which will replicate the original BMW Din fitment.

Is there such a tool or can I use one which will flare SAE and this will then clamp into shape?

Also, the line nuts, are these M10 1mm short fitment?

Thanks.

PG.

Re: Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:11 am
by steve_k
when i did mine a few years ago i bought a flaring tool "kit" off ebay, have used it a few times on different cars with no problems at all. so don't worry about that part.

as for the nuts/unions, is there anywhere local that supplies them? (they can be hard to get at times) if so take one with you & show them the size you want, though nearly all places that stock them have the same size (M10x1).

as long as the joints seal & there's no leaks then your good to go.

also, are you using cunifer or copper pipe?

Re: Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:16 am
by Brianmoooore
Line nuts are 10mm short, and I've used SAE flares with no issues for nearly half a century (that's how old my flare tool is) with no problems.
Replace the U shaped spring clips that hold the flexible lines in place - not expensive, from BMW.

Re: Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:51 am
by PG325
steve_k wrote:when i did mine a few years ago i bought a flaring tool "kit" off ebay, have used it a few times on different cars with no problems at all. so don't worry about that part.

as for the nuts/unions, is there anywhere local that supplies them? (they can be hard to get at times) if so take one with you & show them the size you want, though nearly all places that stock them have the same size (M10x1).

as long as the joints seal & there's no leaks then your good to go.

also, are you using cunifer or copper pipe?
I was going for copper, is there anything better that can be shaped by hand?

Re: Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:55 am
by steve_k
Copper will be fine, never used cunnifer myself as I prefer copper,

They'll last an age, Fit & forget lol.

Re: Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:23 am
by blazed
I have one of these:
http://www.frost.co.uk/automotive-car-b ... e-use.html
works very well and is small so good for use under the car.

Re: Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:44 am
by Brianmoooore
Cunnifer every time! Save the copper for the water pipes in your house.
The reason that the wiring to the diff. speedo sensor often fails should tell you why.

Re: Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:55 am
by Brianmoooore
blazed wrote:I have one of these:
http://www.frost.co.uk/automotive-car-b ... e-use.html
works very well and is small so good for use under the car.
Very similar tool to my fifty year old one.

Re: Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:20 pm
by ajay
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Be careful if doing any 90 degree bends by hand, a cheap bending tool( less than £10) will ensure the pipe does not oval out of shape on all but wide sweeping bends. I've used various bending tools ( some cheap) with great results.
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Re: Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:31 pm
by maxfield
Kunifer is better than copper.

The tools that blazed linked is a very good tool for making flares, does a brilliant flare everytime and great for working in tight spaces when doing on car flares.

And if you need a lesson on how to bend brake pipes ajay looks to be your man :D

Re: Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:49 pm
by maxfield
Kunifer is better than copper.

The tools that blazed linked is a very good tool for making flares, does a brilliant flare everytime and great for working in tight spaces when doing on car flares.

And if you need a lesson on how to bend brake pipes ajay looks to be your man :D

Re: Brake Pipe Flaring (Din or SAE)

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:02 pm
by ha22
I use a silverline pipe flaring kit, bought from toolstation, very easy to use.
Makes perfect flares every time.