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Hartge boot badge.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:05 pm
by csl
Would this have been the type of badge used on e30s in the 80s/early 90s?

Re: Hartge boot badge.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:45 pm
by Topblag
Nope. That's the new style. Old style are NLA, more so now that Hartge have ceased trading.
Re: Hartge boot badge.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:46 pm
by pierce
I can't answer your question, but I've only seen that badge once, on an e36 compact.....
Re: Hartge boot badge.
Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2016 10:47 pm
by csl
Thankyou for the replies fellas.

Re: Hartge boot badge.
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:41 pm
by martauto
I have an old early type (which is not mine .lol) with a view to manufacture these if the market was there.
Any interest guy`s??
Mart.
Re: Hartge boot badge.
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:14 am
by SilverShadow
martauto wrote:I have an old early type (which is not mine .lol) with a view to manufacture these if the market was there.
Any interest guy`s??
Mart.
I'd be interested!
Re: Hartge boot badge.
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:07 pm
by Topblag
And me.
Re: Hartge boot badge.
Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:57 pm
by martauto
These would be machined out of the same aluminium we use for our medical stuff.
I was thinking of leaving a lug of about 6mm on the rear(for manufacturing reasons and also for two tapped holes to fasten it on the grill) .
The badge will be about 4mm thick and if I can get a few people interested I will sort it out at work.
I did contact Hartge a few years ago and they said they would not object.
Now, how much are people willing to pay for a bespoke realistic badge ??
I don't want to make a bean from this but would just love to machine these and see the end result, let me know how much and I will try and push this through.
Cheers Mart.
Re: Hartge boot badge.
Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:04 am
by csl
Sounds like some good come of this thread!

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:18 pm
by Simon
I would certainly be interested, I have a boot badge, but looking for a grill badge.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:58 pm
by Azmontana
I'd be looking for a grill badge too for my h26, previous one got damaged a˜”
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:38 pm
by martauto
I`m on this one next week guy`s
What price do they go for so I know how much time I need on the machines?
Mart.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:30 pm
by steve_k
i'd be interested in both boot & grill badges.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:58 pm
by Simon
I paid £40 for my original boot badge, but I think they'd be worth a fair bit more now.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:13 pm
by steve_k
Simon wrote:I paid £40 for my original boot badge, but I think they'd be worth a fair bit more now.
all i can find at the moment is the later type on ebay from china.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:59 pm
by Azmontana
I hope people putting hartge badges on are genuine hartge conversions a˜ƒ
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:11 pm
by steve_k
Azmontana wrote:I hope people putting hartge badges on are genuine hartge conversions a˜ƒ
well i do have a genuine hartge h27 engine in mine (engine code mb18e) does that count??
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:06 pm
by Azmontana
It wasn't a dig to anyone mate just saying not here to debate what's what. Just bugs me when you get someone with a standard model and they are sticking m badges or whatever else over them.
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Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:08 pm
by steve_k
Azmontana wrote:It wasn't a dig to anyone mate just saying not here to debate what's what. Just bugs me when you get someone with a standard model and they are sticking m badges or whatever else over them.
no worries dude

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:51 am
by Simon
steve_k wrote:Simon wrote:I paid £40 for my original boot badge, but I think they'd be worth a fair bit more now.
all i can find at the moment is the later type on ebay from china.
Very difficult to come by. I found mine fitted to a e36 328i sport on pistonheads classifieds. I emailed the seller to ask if he'd remove it and sell it. He wouldn't entertain it at first and directed me to eBay, but once I explained the fact I had an e30 hartge, and I was looking for an original he agreed and took it off for me

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:41 am
by maggspower
Azmontana wrote:It wasn't a dig to anyone mate just saying not here to debate what's what. Just bugs me when you get someone with a standard model and they are sticking m badges or whatever else over them.
BMW have been doing that for a few years now, 320d Msport FTW!!
I would be interested in a badge, for a genuine car obviously

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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:02 am
by steve_k
Simon wrote:steve_k wrote:Simon wrote:I paid £40 for my original boot badge, but I think they'd be worth a fair bit more now.
all i can find at the moment is the later type on ebay from china.
Very difficult to come by. I found mine fitted to a e36 328i sport on pistonheads classifieds. I emailed the seller to ask if he'd remove it and sell it. He wouldn't entertain it at first and directed me to eBay, but once I explained the fact I had an e30 hartge, and I was looking for an original he agreed and took it off for me

i tried that once, all i got was "want the badges?? buy the car" even though he was breaking the car & said all parts available.
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:56 am
by Azmontana
maggspower wrote:Azmontana wrote:It wasn't a dig to anyone mate just saying not here to debate what's what. Just bugs me when you get someone with a standard model and they are sticking m badges or whatever else over them.
BMW have been doing that for a few years now, 320d Msport FTW!!
I would be interested in a badge, for a genuine car obviously

Difference between an msport model and an actual m car.
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:32 pm
by martauto
Good response so far but the question still is , how much do I have to play with when I sit down and say to my firm, "This is what I want to put through the books".
This will come off my wage , which is not a problem but you also need to know the final price so help me out please.
Lets stick with the grille badge first please.
Mart
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Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:59 pm
by Topblag
martauto wrote:Good response so far but the question still is , how much do I have to play with when I sit down and say to my firm, "This is what I want to put through the books".
This will come off my wage , which is not a problem but you also need to know the final price so help me out please.
Lets stick with the grille badge first please and don't forget this will be a major leap forward from the original badge.
Mart
I've told you what I will pay.
I don't understand what you need, surely if you produce 1, you will understand the costs, add your margin and then you have a price. Working from a predefined budget doesn't make sense as there is a quality level to reach, which is the badge you are copying.
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:02 pm
by martauto
Hi,
I`ve been a bit Pre occupied with the 330 but I have spoken to the "Master" at work and all can be done and to a VERY good quality indeed !!!
To manufacture a "one off " will cost a lot more money than the price per item than a 20 off so that will only give me a guide .
I can say at this moment that the price would be @ £80 delivered.
Let me make one and send it to one of you guy`s first , this is in my time and no cost`s occurred. Weekend work etc.
I would love to see this go ahead because I know the quality will be the best.
Mart.
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:35 am
by Topblag
martauto wrote:Hi,
I`ve been a bit Pre occupied with the 330 but I have spoken to the "Master" at work and all can be done and to a VERY good quality indeed !!!
To manufacture a "one off " will cost a lot more money than the price per item than a 20 off so that will only give me a guide .
I can say at this moment that the price would be @ £80 delivered.
Let me make one and send it to one of you guy`s first , this is in my time and no cost`s occurred. Weekend work etc.
I would love to see this go ahead because I know the quality will be the best.
Mart.
Magic. Well done.
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:41 pm
by SilverShadow
Looking forward to the prototype you produce!
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:45 pm
by martauto
I have spoken to the "Master" again and the material for the first batch should come for free from off cuts . These are bits which are still very good quality but we can not give a certificate of conformity to our customers which is needed in the medical business.
Also as they are car buffs ,and they can give me a very good rate so I will push this one next week and see what comes of it, and so will take the price down a fair bit too.
I will have a hand finishing department to run their eyes across them if needed and these guys are second to none and I mean that!
I`ll make 12 at first with preference to the Zone guys as long as you use them yourself. lol. So roll on next week and I will try and get them drawn up and programed and hopefully a slot in production.
Mart.
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:52 pm
by Topblag
I'd like one please.
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:54 pm
by SilverShadow
me too!
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:03 pm
by martauto
Cool .!!
Any more so I get really push this at work?
Mart.
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:06 pm
by 320iConvertible
Me

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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:06 pm
by 320iConvertible
Me

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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:25 pm
by Topblag
I'd like to suggest that first choice should go to those with Hartge cars that need them, but that's the vendors choice.