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Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 1:43 pm
by tom325sport
So I want to sort my electric roof. At the moment it is half manual (roof) and half electric (horseshoe). I think I'm right in saying that I will need the re-enforcement plate that will go over the top of this to fix it...?

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Also can someone please tell me if this looks right?

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The top red arrow shows a bolt that looks like it should attach itself to the arm to the right of it - What should go here? I can't seem to find the right part number. Number 9 maybe?
The bottom arrow - should this be straight?

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Also the other side (passenger side) looks similar to the one above. it looks like it's missing something?

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Thanks in advance.

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2015 2:15 pm
by manse73
That bit you are pointing at in the second picture I couldn't get when I had my Motorsport. I ended up going to Bmw for the dimensions and getting a local engineer shop to make me two as I needed the other side as well

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:56 am
by j4gz
tom325sport wrote:So I want to sort my electric roof. At the moment it is half manual (roof) and half electric (horseshoe). I think I'm right in saying that I will need the re-enforcement plate that will go over the top of this to fix it...?

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Also can someone please tell me if this looks right?

Image

The top red arrow shows a bolt that looks like it should attach itself to the arm to the right of it - What should go here? I can't seem to find the right part number. Number 9 maybe?
The bottom arrow - should this be straight?

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Also the other side (passenger side) looks similar to the one above. it looks like it's missing something?

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Thanks in advance.
The parts you will need in order to get you roof going will be 16,20,3,10,14,11

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:28 am
by tom325sport
Hi thanks. Yes I have all them. They are removed so I can manually open the roof.

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:32 pm
by Gert_8
You are missing the closing rod. Part numbers: 3,10,11 & 14

You will also need to repair plate you have mentioned, but I am
Assuming you still have both the upper and lower levers that the rods, 3 & 2 attach to

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:08 pm
by tom325sport
Hi thanks for this. As mentioned I have all the necessary parts. These have been remove so I can close the hood manually. OK so I need the repair plate but what about the arrows on the picture? Which part numbers are these?
Thanks.

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:04 am
by Gert_8
In your first pick with the two arrows - nothing is missing on the lower arrow, this is just a moving part. The arrow above it looks like it is is missing a circular pin (part 13). just keeps the lever moving within the slot. Possibly on both sides...

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:18 pm
by tom325sport
Gert_8 - thanks so much! I might try and straighten the bottom bit where the bottom arrow points to as on closer inspection it looks bent.
I'll get them pins (part 13) ordered too, as well as the repair plate. I'll let you know if it works. Thanks again. :thumb:

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:31 pm
by Gert_8
Pleasure. Please do let us know.

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:27 pm
by tom325sport
Actually Gert_8, after doing more research it looks like a bolt and not a rivet. Could it be part number 8?
This chap had the same problem....
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthr ... 80&page=14

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:40 pm
by tom325sport
Or one of 28!!!!!

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showpar ... Id=54_0146

There's loads!! Help.

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:37 am
by Gert_8
I'm referring to this pic..

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The top arrow is where I think part #13 fits. It serves as a guide that fits into the slot on the right hand lever (which by the way, looks like it may be bent).

It might be an idea to take that pic to your BM Dealer and ask their parts department for an opinion, but looking at the exploded diagram, part 13 looks like the one you're after on that side.

The other image, I'm guessing, has a similar arrangement (I haven't really paid much attention to this side, because when the roof breaks, the forces involved usually affect the right hand linkages.)

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:47 am
by Gert_8
I have had a look at the thread you posted above, and it does look like a screw, but the exploded diagram, part #13 looks to me to be the right size than part #8. It may be the drawing doesn't show the slot?

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:13 am
by tom325sport
Thanks for your advise. I've had a look at part number 13 (54318129346) on google and should it look like this...
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E30-325i-M ... /ES158307/

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:28 am
by Gert_8
That looks right - it slots into the groove on the lever to the right of the first arrow.

What is confusing me, is the lever itself has a pin protruding, so how does is attach? :?

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 2:01 pm
by tom325sport
Ok yes that makes sense. The pin that's producing out is maybe because it has snapped off and that's what's left?

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:40 pm
by tom325sport
So Gert_8 - typed part number 8 (54318134533) into goggle and this is what I found? It looks more like it do you think?

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E30-325i-M ... /ES158308/

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:51 pm
by Gert_8
If you can tell me whether you can remove the "pin" that protrudes on the lever, highlighted with your 1st arrow and this part screws in to replace it, then it's the one. Take a look at that pin thing please.

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:00 pm
by tom325sport
Thank you - yes I will take a look soon and report back. Thanks again for your help!

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:08 pm
by Gert_8
I'm surprised not to hear from Benhar and Willnz.

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:27 pm
by BenHar
Gert_8 wrote:I'm surprised not to hear from Benhar and Willnz.
I've never actually seen an electric roof mechanism.

Just interested.

Ben

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:36 pm
by Gert_8
I was hoping one of you guys would confirm we're after part #13! :)

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:38 pm
by BenHar
Gert,

Can you take equivalent pictures of yours to show what it should look like?

Ben

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:39 pm
by Gert_8
I was planning to do just that, but at the weekend.

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:54 pm
by BenHar
There are some more pictures of the meachanism in this thread: http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... f&start=50

Might help?

The bent piece that your lower arrow points to looks straight in them.

Ben

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:19 am
by tom325sport
That would be great. Thanks so much again :)

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:04 pm
by BenHar
Found this in the wiki which has some diagrams: http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/imag ... ft_top.pdf

Ben

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:49 pm
by tom325sport
Chaps thanks so much! That makes sense. In that thread I put up of that chap who had the same problem, someone had sent him a bag of the guide screws, there's a pictures of them a few pages on. So I'm assuming these can be replaced/fabricated somehow. I've had a quick look at mine and I cannot get that broken screw out! Any tips on getting this out? I've been fighting it for a while.

Re: Any Cab roof experts out there?

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:34 pm
by tom325sport
Willnz thanks so much!!! Could I ask what you mean by peened? Thanks