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Has anyone here painted the inner of there BBS wheels the nogaro/grey/silver like the m3 ones? If so does it look good or crap, was considering doing it myself over Xmas if I can get hold of some wheels.

Cheers

Matt

Will look as good as the spray job you give it.

Sanchez wrote:Will look as good as the spray job you give it.

Ok thanks, maybe ill get them done by a paint shop then

I did mine. Haven't got any pictures though. They did look good but I had them shot blasted and painted them with the spray gun.

ok thanks, I don't have a proper spray gun, I know you can get them pre mixed in a spray can, but not sure how well that would come out and look on the wheel

Because there isn't really a big flat surface on a BBS wheel, you wouldn't really tell the difference between spray gun and can.

The only way to do these properly is by getting them blasted and powder coated. This gets rid of all corrosion and coats the entire wheel in paint. This results in a far better and longer lasting job that is superior to when the wheels were new. Downsides? Powder coating is a few thou thick so the centre caps will need the outer edges rubbing down so that they fit okay - better to file them down so they are a loose fit before coating. Also, powder coating will melt anything plastic - metal parts only.

Andyboy wrote:The only way to do these properly is by getting them blasted and powder coated. This gets rid of all corrosion and coats the entire wheel in paint. This results in a far better and longer lasting job that is superior to when the wheels were new. Downsides? Powder coating is a few thou thick so the centre caps will need the outer edges rubbing down so that they fit okay - better to file them down so they are a loose fit before coating. Also, powder coating will melt anything plastic - metal parts only.

Thanks, any idea of a rough cost to get them powdercoated and sprayed professionally?

Can they powder coat if you are only doing the centre part of the wheel. Not sure that I would agree that its a longer lasting job than a good 2k paint finish. If the finish is gloss my opinion for long lasting shine would be the paint if done right. The spray can can be got in 2k but will be a lot thinner than the gun mix.

My wheels are being powder coated, but I have to have the finished matched with paint for the centres. As Brian mentioned, the centres have plastic bits..

What is the grey colour that best matches the factory "Nagaro?" Finish?

anyone know the colour codes for the two colours

Off the top of my head nogaro is 243.

Sure the paint codes are in the wiki somewhere.

maxfield wrote:Off the top of my head nogaro is 243.

Sure the paint codes are in the wiki somewhere.

yes that's correct

Powder coating costs about 40 quid a wheel. It's best not to use badly corroded wheels as these will require alloy welding - you can't use filler due to the temps. Spraying X spokes with a gun leaves the old problem of not enough paint on the inner bits. Powder coating avoids that as it just gets everywhere in an equal thickness. It's also very hardwearing with an extremely hard finish.

Andyboy wrote:Powder coating costs about 40 quid a wheel. It's best not to use badly corroded wheels as these will require alloy welding - you can't use filler due to the temps. Spraying X spokes with a gun leaves the old problem of not enough paint on the inner bits. Powder coating avoids that as it just gets everywhere in an equal thickness. It's also very hardwearing with an extremely hard finish.

Thanks for the info.

Lepsons do Nagaro centred BBS for us a ML quite often.

The colour is painted on then the lacquer is powder coated.

bss325i wrote:Lepsons do Nagaro centred BBS for us a ML quite often.

The colour is painted on then the lacquer is powder coated.

I know the local powdercoater, he's always advised the opposite. Powdercoat first and painted laquer, as paint laquer is a lot shinier than powdercoat.

Does anyone know where I can find a photo of some nogaro wheels? Thanks

Before taking them to be blasted - strip the centres yourself and just give them the metal bits , or give them the nuts to do also or rattle can and a few costs of laquer them yourself , you can get new Bmw logos for the caps from Bmw for s few quid each , look great on new wheels

Bead blasting (glass bead not sand blast) gives excellent results

Had no issued with centre cap fitting after mine were powder coated


Remember powder isn't mixed like paint code to get exact colors, some places like lepsons who do lots , would have perfected the color mixes themselves for say nogaro, other places won't

But powder coated wheels are durable and clean well , had a few sets done and no issues

maxfield wrote:

bss325i wrote:Lepsons do Nagaro centred BBS for us a ML quite often.

The colour is painted on then the lacquer is powder coated.

I know the local powdercoater, he's always advised the opposite. Powdercoat first and painted laquer, as paint laquer is a lot shinier than powdercoat.

Well the powder lacquer Lepsons use is shiny.

We get a lot of wheels done by them with no issues.

Their process outlined.

http://www.lepsons.com/how-we-produce-stunning-wheels/

polsta wrote:Remember powder isn't mixed like paint code to get exact colors, some places like lepsons who do lots , would have perfected the color mixes themselves for say nogaro, other places won't

That's why Lepsons paint the wheel colour, to get an exact match, then powder coat the lacquer.

bss325i wrote:

maxfield wrote:

bss325i wrote:Lepsons do Nagaro centred BBS for us a ML quite often.

The colour is painted on then the lacquer is powder coated.

I know the local powdercoater, he's always advised the opposite. Powdercoat first and painted laquer, as paint laquer is a lot shinier than powdercoat.

Well the powder lacquer Lepsons use is shiny.

We get a lot of wheels done by them with no issues.

Their process outlined.

http://www.lepsons.com/how-we-produce-stunning-wheels/

Strange, that's the method he swears by, guess he's never had any problems. Everyone does things different.

bss325i wrote:

Thanks.

Can you still buy these wheels new and if so what would the cost be?

matt86 wrote:

bss325i wrote:

Thanks.

Can you still buy these wheels new and if so what would the cost be?

Yes can still buy new.
Got a quote last week from BMW.
BBS 15"x 7J ET24
Rim Part number B36.11.1.179.066 £286.67 each +VAT
Cap Part number B36.13.2.225.376 £47.09 each + VAT
Total 4x rims. 4x caps with approx 10% discount they wanted £1441.86

Was thinking about treating myself for Christmas until I got this price!
But having looked at second hand for some time now & the "tat" that's being offered, without any guarantee of quality or history, at least with these they are genuine & brand new.
How do you think my Cab would look in these, you may know it's totally OEM, would these ruin that aspect.
Cheers

minesapint wrote:

matt86 wrote:

bss325i wrote:

Thanks.

Can you still buy these wheels new and if so what would the cost be?

Yes can still buy new.
Got a quote last week from BMW.
BBS 15"x 7J ET24
Rim Part number B36.11.1.179.066 £286.67 each +VAT
Cap Part number B36.13.2.225.376 £47.09 each + VAT
Total 4x rims. 4x caps with approx 10% discount they wanted £1441.86

Was thinking about treating myself for Christmas until I got this price!
But having looked at second hand for some time now & the "tat" that's being offered, without any guarantee of quality or history, at least with these they are genuine & brand new.
How do you think my Cab would look in these, you may know it's totally OEM, would these ruin that aspect.
Cheers

personally I think these are the nicest wheels for a e30. the grey gives the wheels more character. i might treat myself at some point too. but for now i may just spray the set i have myself.

My original mint 14" bottletops, including unused spare.



On top of the £1441 for rims & caps, there's £400 for tyres as well.
They also sell 14"x 6.5J slightly less. Think 15" are better.

If I went for BBS 15" what effect would it have on the originality of my Cab. does anybody think?
Cheers

They look great, but you can achieve the same result with a refurbished, recoloured set for about a third of the price on the new from the dealers - possibly including rubber.

Gert_8 wrote:They look great, but you can achieve the same result with a refurbished, recoloured set for about a third of the price on the new from the dealers - possibly including rubber.

what are we taling pricewise for a professional to do them? about 400?

A silver set could be £50-£55 a wheel. I don't think they can do the colour correctly with a powder coat, so paint is the best way to achieve that. You may have to pay a little extra for the paint. Rav on here is yet go to wheels guy, or Kos.

Gert_8 wrote:A silver set could be £50-£55 a wheel. I don't think they can do the colour correctly with a powder coat, so paint is the best way to achieve that. You may have to pay a little extra for the paint. Rav on here is yet go to wheels guy, or Kos.

thanks i'll have a chat with rav, need to catch up anyway, haven't spoke to him in ages.

Even at £70 a wheel, say, it's cheaper than getting the dealer set. Let me know how you get on. I'm having a set refurbed in silver. I would have liked to have had a set in Nogaro, but I don't think the company is set up to do it.

Gert_8 wrote:Even at £70 a wheel, say, it's cheaper than getting the dealer set. Let me know how you get on. I'm having a set refurbed in silver. I would have liked to have had a set in Nogaro, but I don't think the company is set up to do it.

ok will do, it wont be for a few weeks or so, i'll drop you a pm or put a post on here when they've been done

Whilst I was at the BM dealers getting price for BBS last week I asked about refurbs.
They have a refurb service they do themselves in their bodyshop, total strip, repair, repaint to original, average around £65/wheel. They like to see them first to see if appropriate & give proper price.
When I first bought my cab in 1986, one of the points BM emphasized in their sales brochure was that all the alloys fitted to the cars were x-rayed for faults after manufacture. Makes me wonder with secondhand.
Cheers

ive done a few sets myself, with a total spend of £30 on material, even had people coming to me to get them done, just flat the centre down, mask the silver park of the rim & blow over the centre, if the silver part is tired do that part first as easier to mask than the centre...