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What would you pay GENUINE MATS THREAD

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:01 pm
by Royalratch
Dudes.

I'm talking to a place to make exact replicas of the mats we all crave. They have the templates already and a pretty good match for the Indigo Blue I need(as well almost all the E30 colours). They also have the correct oval fasteners the E30 used. They also do the cheap or plush carpets too.

They obviously can't do the logo.

But I've never seen an actual set of original mats up close. I would appreciate a decent picture of the mats and any close ups so I can forward on. I especially need to know what edging was used - was it cloth? Vinyl?

Did all the mats have the fasteners? Or just the drivers side? They can do an extra carpet insert but not a vinyl one - is that original?


Much appreciated. Once I get them made I'll post them up.

Re: GENUINE Mats

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:40 pm
by Royalratch
Anyone?

Re: GENUINE Mats

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:08 pm
by Royalratch
Its going ahead.

Can yu just PM me pix? Or post here?

Are they 100% genuine?

Re: GENUINE Mats

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:16 pm
by Gavla
I would definitely buy a set of convertible mats once this is all organised...

Re: GENUINE Mats

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:36 pm
by Royalratch
I was hoping to just forward them onto the makers and get the order going.

Then show you lot the results - if you like them I'm sure they'd do a great deal - probably at least 50 orders on the Zone alone.

£60 for the plush carpet version. £40 for the nylon type.

Their stock product is about 80% there but I'm trying to create a proper E30 detailed set. Just won;t have the logo or heel pad.

Re: GENUINE Mats

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 5:51 pm
by Gert_8
I'd be up for a £60 set for my cabby, please. - indigo blue would be perfect.

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 6:40 pm
by polsta
Only drivers mat had the 3x fasteners

Edging was nylon stiching, and reverse is coverd in stars, if real true oem fit,look,feel, black mats could be produced someone would make a fortune, but they have to be just right

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:36 pm
by Royalratch
Nice lads.

I prefer the leatherette edging but I guess its not 'correct'

I also don't see why its a big no no to have fasteners on the passenger side too.

Just checked the sample carpet they sent me - it has stars on the back!

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:41 pm
by bss325i
Will it have the correct plastic heel pad with "made in west Germany" and the BMW roundel?

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:52 pm
by Cloggy Saint
I've bought a few sets of mats from the dealer and they don't have stars on the back, a plastic heel pad or a BMW roundel :?

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:03 pm
by bss325i
Cloggy Saint wrote:I've bought a few sets of mats from the dealer and they don't have stars on the back, a plastic heel pad or a BMW roundel :?
Original ones did.

The ones you've bought are obviously produced much later by a different supplier.

Also, If you buy a new LHD carpet it doesnt come with a heel pad but the originals did.

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:05 pm
by Cloggy Saint
Mine does have a heel pad but it's just a raised section made from the same material as the rest of the mat.

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:10 pm
by bss325i
Well the original heel pad is plastic, has a BMW roundel in the middle and made in West Germany at the bottom.

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:21 pm
by DanThe
I will get you some pics of the coconut hair type mats, my favourites 8)

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:22 pm
by DanThe
As Barry says, they need to have the plastic heel pad really

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:23 pm
by Royalratch
Read the bloody thread! No heel pad and no bloody roundel.

But they can do a raised section of extra carpet for the heelpad.

But the quality, colour match and locking pin type are all pretty bang on.

Still no pics...!?

Stay tuned.

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:50 pm
by BenHar
bss325i wrote:
Cloggy Saint wrote:I've bought a few sets of mats from the dealer and they don't have stars on the back, a plastic heel pad or a BMW roundel :?
Original ones did.
I have two sets of what I think must be original mats.

One is the ridged hard wearing set from my '88 cabriolet and one is the plush from my '90 cabriolet. Neither has a heel pad, just the same material all through.

Ben

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:57 pm
by bss325i
It's very common for the plastic heel pad to have been removed, the corners can come adrift and your heel can get caught on the loose corner.

I've had/seen plenty of these floor mats in varying states for heel pad condition.

All three sets ive had in my sport have the heel pad.

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:00 pm
by BenHar
Maybe cabriolet mats were different?

Absolutely no sign of heel pads on mine.

I'll get some pictures up.

Ben

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:13 pm
by bss325i
Nope, cabrios also had the heel pad.

Trevor B7's mats still have the pads.

Here's an old pic of my car with the mats i used to have.

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:17 pm
by BenHar
I'll get some pictures of mine tomorrow.

Those seats look wrong for cabriolet?

Ben

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:26 pm
by bss325i
BenHar wrote:I'll get some pictures of mine tomorrow.

Those seats look wrong for cabriolet?

Ben
That's because its not a cabrio!

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:29 pm
by BenHar
bss325i wrote:
BenHar wrote:I'll get some pictures of mine tomorrow.

Those seats look wrong for cabriolet?

Ben
That's because its not a cabrio!
Ah, sorry, I assumed that "Nope, cabrios also had the heel pad. " meant your picture was of a cabriolet.

Ben

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:33 pm
by bss325i
BenHar wrote:
bss325i wrote:
BenHar wrote:I'll get some pictures of mine tomorrow.

Those seats look wrong for cabriolet?

Ben
That's because its not a cabrio!
Ah, sorry, I assumed that "Nope, cabrios also had the heel pad. " meant your picture was of a cabriolet.

Ben
No it was "Nope, cabrios also had the heel pad

Trevor B7's mats have some."

In reference to cabrios.

I posted an old pic of mine as its the only pic i had of a heel pad.

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:44 pm
by BenHar
I should have noticed that the centre console switches were wrong too.

I reckon adit would know all the mats that were available, he's got a house full of them!

Ben

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:46 pm
by bss325i
Not any more i hear....

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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:48 pm
by BenHar
Is he in trouble again? Or has he gone to Spain for good?

Haven't seen him post for ages.

Ben

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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:09 am
by bss325i
He sold up i heard.

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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:09 am
by Jesus325iTouring
bss325i wrote:Nope, cabrios also had the heel pad.

Trevor B7's mats still have the pads.

Here's an old pic of my car with the mats i used to have.

Image
My new Touring has these mats.

My other Touring has different ones, they are a sort of "ridged" pile mat, very hard wearing.

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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:47 am
by Royalratch
Ok.

The latest news seems to be that mat differ from model to model and factor installed or dealer supplied afterward.

I've ordered a set of Indigo mats with the following strict criteria.

1) The colour match must be very hood (it is, the sample is good).
2) The locking pins must be the correct style and in the correct locations (no problem they say).
3) The edging. On some models it is just heavy wound polyester and some it is a leatherette / vinyl edging. Bothe are always in the same colour as the carpet.
40 The backing is the quality rubber type with a tessellated triangle pattern - not the E30 star pattern but in the ball park.


What they cannot do.

1) Logos (obvs)
2) Vinyl heel pad - they can do an extra thick 'double up' heel pad in same carpet - which some OE matts did have.
3) The premium carpet type they use is actually better quality than the E30 Premium type but then looks different. It doesn't have a 'weave' or 'grain' to it like the E30 ones do. Its closer to the kind of stuff you see in a Range Rover or lux German saloon. I didn't see a sample of the cheaper version - which might actually look closer to the E30 cheap option.

I'll post pix when they arrive - then you can all order solo or I can arrange a group buy with some kind of deal.