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Poll: Are my new plates illegal for public highways??

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:26 pm
by massive
As always different views from everyone.......please submit your vote and reason. Thanks

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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:41 pm
by kam-325i
They will be illegal to use on the public roads in the UK.

Reason:

The spacing between the "H7" & "20".

The group "H720" would be classed as group 1, While "LPR" would be group 2. The law states that the space between each letter/number in a group must be 11mm.

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:45 pm
by massive
kam-325i wrote:They will be illegal to use on the public roads in the UK.

Reason:

The spacing between the "H7" & "20".

The group "H720" would be classed as group 1, While "LPR" would be group 2. The law states that the space between each letter/number in a group must be 11mm.
Does this also apply to private plates then? They are always spaced out all over the place

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:50 pm
by stevetigger
Mis spaced, it applies to all plates private or not!

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:51 pm
by kam-325i
massive wrote:
kam-325i wrote:They will be illegal to use on the public roads in the UK.

Reason:

The spacing between the "H7" & "20".

The group "H720" would be classed as group 1, While "LPR" would be group 2. The law states that the space between each letter/number in a group must be 11mm.
Does this also apply to private plates then? They are always spaced out all over the place
Yes.

DVLA Standards

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:52 pm
by fuzzy
the rules regarding numberplates are strict, other than standard sized and spaced numberplates, nothing else is allowed.you can get away with other stuff but depends how easy it is to read and the mood of any policeman that see's you winkeye ive seen mates get a 21 day ticket to have numberplates changed because they'd 'adjusted' them.

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:52 pm
by kam-325i
Hey steve, Was that you i saw going round ASDA island today ?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:56 pm
by stevetigger
kam-325i wrote:Hey steve, Was that you i saw going round ASDA island today ?
Nah, been in all day! :mad: Going out in a min though! In the passion wagon! Might take a photo of the plate, just to show my mis spaced reg! winkeye

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The BMW is the same but with a 'J' instead of a 'S' never been pulled in the BMW been pulled lost count in the Zafira! :mad:

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:59 pm
by Simon
I'd stick them on, and hope the coppers with nothing better to do hope your german, and not bother wasting your/their time!

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:03 pm
by massive
Simon wrote:I'd stick them on, and hope the coppers with nothing better to do hope your german, and not bother wasting your/their time!
I'll get practicing then "Ich bin von Deutschland. Ich versteht dont"

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:07 pm
by kam-325i
stevetigger wrote:
kam-325i wrote:Hey steve, Was that you i saw going round ASDA island today ?
Nah, been in all day! :mad: Going out in a min though! In the passion wagon! Might take a photo of the plate, just to show my mis spaced reg! winkeye

The BMW is the same but with a 'J' instead of a 'S' never been pulled in the BMW been pulled lost count in the Zafira! :mad:
Then there are 2 J reg silver cabs with 15" basketwaeves in Telford !

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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:07 pm
by scottybeemer
who cares ,they look great :cool: ,just leave them on until you get told to take them off

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:07 pm
by Simon
massive wrote:
Simon wrote:I'd stick them on, and hope the coppers with nothing better to do hope your german, and not bother wasting your/their time!
I'll get practicing then "Ich bin von Deutschland. Ich versteht dont"
And knowing your luck he will answer back in fluent German :lol:

Ahhh ja, mein deutsch ist nicht so gut!

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:09 pm
by slideordie
i'd say they're about as illegal as you can get! i've had no bother with mine tho

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:23 pm
by massive
Ahhh ja, mein deutsch ist nicht so gut!
:lol:

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:26 pm
by stevetigger
Kam325 wrote:Then there are 2 J reg silver cabs with 15" basketwaeves in Telford !
Mines a 'K' but on a P/P like the Zafira
J 77OGG

I think there is another from Prioslee! Bloody snob. Ive seen a LHD Black 325 Cab in Dothill with a Hardtop and German Style plates like above!

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:38 pm
by kam-325i
This cab i saw was nearly the same a yours, but fitted with the chrome door trim.

Telford - The E30 Capital !

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:00 pm
by stevetigger
kam-325i wrote:This cab i saw was nearly the same a yours, but fitted with the chrome door trim.

Telford - The E30 Capital !
Very true!

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:00 pm
by A1BMW325iSport
yeah if stopped say something in german like...

leck mich am arsch, wichser :lol:

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:07 pm
by stevo
keeping standard ones in the boot to swap back might save you a Ԛ£30 fine if you do get pulled :wink:

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:59 pm
by weegaz22
massive wrote:
Simon wrote:I'd stick them on, and hope the coppers with nothing better to do hope your german, and not bother wasting your/their time!
I'll get practicing then "Ich bin von Deutschland. Ich versteht dont"
better be able to tell him in german why your cars a rhd with a uk tax disc in the window :P

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:07 pm
by d6dph
yeah they definately are illegal mate. the font is incorrect (should be made using the "charles wright" font) spacings are out and you cant have any extra stickers within the registration area. (ive been making plates for about 6 years now)

having said that, i have german plates on my car and dont get any grief

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:52 pm
by MrDazzle
From the DVLA Website...

NUMBER PLATES FITTED BEFORE 1 SEPTEMBER 2001

Number plates fitted before 1 September 2001 must display characters that meet the dimensions shown in one of the two groups below

Characters Group 1
Height 89mm
Width (except the figure 1or letter l) 64mm
Stroke 16mm
Space between characters 13mm
Space between groups 38mm
Side margins (minimum) 13mm
Space between vertical lines 19mm

The law states that

You must not alter, rearrange or misrepresent the letters or numbers
Characters must not be moved from one group to the other (e.g. A242 ABC must not be displayed as A242A BC).



Just from a curiosity point of view...is there anything to stop you registering your car in Germany and having a genuine plate? Probably a bit expensive to insure a car from Germany though:p

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:06 pm
by stevetigger
You would need a German Address!

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:17 pm
by oguz327
they do look good thu dude lol

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:51 pm
by massive
MrDazzle wrote:From the DVLA Website...

NUMBER PLATES FITTED BEFORE 1 SEPTEMBER 2001

Number plates fitted before 1 September 2001 must display characters that meet the dimensions shown in one of the two groups below

Characters Group 1
Height 89mm
Width (except the figure 1or letter l) 64mm
Stroke 16mm
Space between characters 13mm
Space between groups 38mm
Side margins (minimum) 13mm
Space between vertical lines 19mm

The law states that

You must not alter, rearrange or misrepresent the letters or numbers
Characters must not be moved from one group to the other (e.g. A242 ABC must not be displayed as A242A BC).



Just from a curiosity point of view...is there anything to stop you registering your car in Germany and having a genuine plate? Probably a bit expensive to insure a car from Germany though:p
Mine were fitted on the 7/01/06 so thats my excuse!! winkeye

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:02 am
by MrDazzle
In that case my friend, you're bang out of luck. Post 09/01 you have to have the boggo issue XX51 XXX plate with government font and spacing;);)

Incidently, d'ya know it's the same offence as having no plate at all? Might as well just have blank plates to confuse people:p

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:05 am
by massive
MrDazzle wrote:In that case my friend, you're bang out of luck. Post 09/01 you have to have the boggo issue XX51 XXX plate with government font and spacing;);)

Incidently, d'ya know it's the same offence as having no plate at all? Might as well just have blank plates to confuse people:p
Now theres an idea!! :lol:

I let you all know how long i last before i have to remove them!![/quote]

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:10 am
by johnna
why not run with them as an experiement and let us know???

I'd love my plates to be
H7 XX XXX.

Sounds well worth it to me!

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 12:29 am
by oguz327
where did you get them from massive? and how much dude?

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:00 am
by stevetigger
oguz3001 wrote:where did you get them from massive? and how much dude?
What he said!

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:24 am
by parksie
I had a German registered E34 all legal in Germany, then came back to Uk with it, but after the insurance sticker on the number plate expired, sure enough i had a tug from Bill. 8O

It turned out this copper was ex Armed Forces stationed in Osnabrook Germany, he knew every trick !!!!!!!!!!!!, so off to dvla to uk register the car !!!!!!!!!!! :(
Beware, if you get a copper like i did, :( sure as bratwurst is bratwurst he'll do you. :-x

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:19 am
by massive
Germanplates.co.uk - Made in germany and shipped over. The surrounds I have bought separatly - the kit comes with plain surounds.

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:21 am
by Templ8e30
I too have german number plates from germanplates.com but I left the spacing standard to reduce the likelyhood of a pull by the rozzers.

I've had mine on for about 5 months now without so much as a passing glance from plod (that's probably jinxed it now :roll: ).

I even managed to dodge a fine for an expired parking ticket, I came back to the car late and spotted a traffic warden with his book out looking over the car. When he looked at the german plates he put his book away and walked off !. Bonus :D , that saved me the cost of the plates alone.

Cheers,

Iain T

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:45 pm
by MrDazzle
What about the 'D' tags? Are they legal?