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Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:09 pm
by Rich2388
Anyone had any experience using these? Worth doing if doing a belt change anyway? Or just a gimik?

http://www.bimmerheads.com

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:12 pm
by bss325i
That link takes you to the home page.

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:29 pm
by Cook318IS

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:35 pm
by kam-325i
Never used a Kevlar based Timing belt in an automotive scenario before, but I use them ALOT on power transmission systems (High torque/Low RPM electric motor driven systems) and they are good......

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:46 pm
by Rich2388
Worth doing then you rekon? Cheers for sorting that link cook318is. Im trying to do it on my phone, pain is the arse.

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:00 pm
by kam-325i
Erm......Down to yourself really. If you drive your car hard, then yes, its worth using one.

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:07 pm
by bss325i
Ive never heard of a standard conti tech (OEM BMW) belt breaking that was changed at the correct intervals.

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:09 pm
by Brianmoooore
bss325i wrote:Ive never heard of a standard conti tech (OEM BMW) belt breaking that was changed at the correct intervals.
Exactly! It's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:26 pm
by Speedtouch
I've heard them recommended for Fiat twin cams by Guy Croft.

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:12 am
by harry_p
Probably a good idea because fiat twincams have notioriously weak belts with short change intervals. I upgraded my lancia to evo pulleys and belts and still changed it every year for the £20 a belt cost after reading too many horror stories.

M20s don't seem to have a cambelt problem. In fact I don't think I've ever heard of one slipping or breaking. Personally I'd probably save my pennies and just change the standard one on a more regular basis.

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:09 am
by bss325i
Well as it happenes there is an M20B20 in my workshop with a snapped cambelt and I have seen others but we are talking way over due belts.

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:29 am
by DMW
cost £26.42 not including shipping from usa, £15.12 for standard belt from GSF.

so if you fitted the Kevlar belt would the belt change interval be extended.


and kevlar is used in making bullet proof vests so you could say my engine is bullet proof if you had the belt fitted LOL
:mad: :shoot1:

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:08 am
by jonny323i
It doesn't seem that much more expensive than a standard belt so if would be worth trying.
Gates are good belts anyway

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:33 am
by Speedtouch
DMW wrote: So if you fitted the Kevlar belt would the belt change interval be extended.
I would imagine so, yes. Why not contact the manufacturer and find out for sure?

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:39 pm
by Brianmoooore
DMW wrote:so if you fitted the Kevlar belt would the belt change interval be extended.
It's described as a 'race' part. In general, real 'race' parts (as opposed to 'boy racer parts') are stronger than standard parts, but are intended to have a much shorter life than the standard part - you aren't going to be changing the belt on a race engine at 40,000 mile intervals.

Re: Any experiences of these? Gates racing m20 timming belt

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:31 pm
by HairyScreech
The reason for a stronger belt stems from the extra force required to spin a camshaft at high speed with stronger than stock valve springs, however is does seem a stock belt will do 9k with some fairly hefty springs.